Red “honey” gourami

[emeraldking]

This has to be the stupidest comment I think I’ve ever seen.. You do understand that rooms come in different sizes right…? That your bedroom is probably substantially bigger than mine.

Did you comment just to comment? I see absolutely no substance in your comment at all.

Other than sizing down my guinea pigs which I will NOT be doing, a 10 gallon is the best I can do. They take priority over ONE tiny fish who is doing perfectly fine in the 6 gallon.

It’s people like you that deter people from posting on fish forums with your petty comments offering zero advice other than enjoying coming off holier than thou.

Good for you that you’re privileged enough to have the space to (hopefully) have your guinea pigs in at least the minimum size enclosure (hopefully you go above and beyond that) while having space for a 20 gallon tank. We don’t all that big enough bedrooms for this!

Thanks for your utterly useless comment.

Please, as already been mentioned, keep this post clean of harsh comments... Even if you disagree or can't follow the reply, a feedback can always be posted in a normal and adult way.

 

[Bella J]

Please, as already been mentioned, keep this post clean of harsh comments... Even if you disagree or can't follow the reply, a feedback can always be posted in a normal

Please, as already been mentioned, keep this post clean of harsh comments... Even if you disagree or can't follow the reply, a feedback can always be posted in a normal and adult way.

My comment wasn’t as hash as I wanted to be.

 

[emeraldking]

My comment wasn’t as hash as I wanted to be.

I'm glad that you've held back a bit. But we like to keep it clean overhere. But thank you for your feedback on this...

 

[VioletThePurple]

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This has to be the stupidest comment I think I’ve ever seen.. You do understand that rooms come in different sizes right…? That your bedroom is probably substantially bigger than mine.

Did you comment just to comment? I see absolutely no substance in your comment at all.

Other than sizing down my guinea pigs which I will NOT be doing, a 10 gallon is the best I can do. They take priority over ONE tiny fish who is doing perfectly fine in the 6 gallon.

It’s people like you that deter people from posting on fish forums with your petty comments offering zero advice other than enjoying coming off holier than thou.

Good for you that you’re privileged enough to have the space to (hopefully) have your guinea pigs in at least the minimum size enclosure (hopefully you go above and beyond that) while having space for a 20 gallon tank. We don’t all that big enough bedrooms for this!

Thanks for your utterly useless comment.

My bedroom is actually pretty small. Just wanted to give you an idea that you could make it work. And yes, my two guinea pigs have 15 square feet. It's not about having a big bedroom, it's about making the most out of that space. I had to get rid of a couple pieces of furntiure to get this cage for my guinea pigs, and I had to clear off the top of my bookshelf to put my tank.

 

[emeraldking]

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My bedroom is actually pretty small. Just wanted to give you an idea that you could make it work. And yes, my two guinea pigs have 15 square feet. It's not about having a big bedroom, it's about making the most out of that space. I had to get rid of a couple pieces of furntiure to get this cage for my guinea pigs, and I had to clear off the top of my bookshelf to put my tank.

It comes down how to deal efficiently with the space you've got. Same here... The problem we've all got is that the house ain't gonna get bigger. So, we have to be creative how to deal with the present space.

 

[WhistlingBadger]

Mrs. Badger has instituted a "One Tank Per Room" rule in our house. I generally abide by it, but the Badgerling is pretty good at finding loopholes. But even she hasn't dared to challenge the "No Rodents or Snakes" rule.

 

[GaryE]

Budget and space are genuinely limiting factors, and we can't just snap our fingers, pray or buy lottery tickets and solve that. Half the thought in this hobby goes into finding ways to ignore the limits space imposes on our aquarium ambitions. But you asked very pointed questions. I'll give you my answers, which you can accept or reject.


1. Are red “honey” gourami actually honey gourami with just a different colour strain?
Both, and neither. The trade name in English can be applied to 3 creatures, as already mentioned. It could be labiosa, chuna or a cross. It can also be labiosa treated with hormones, in which case the red will fade. In the marketing of aquarium fish, some English names are used for several different fish, or one fish can have a whole list of trade names...

2. Do the rules for honey gourami apply to the red “honey” gourami?
Probably not. If it is labiosa, it's a bigger fish in time. It's more aggressive than chuna.

3. Do these red “honey” gourami get bigger than the honey?
Double the size. I've seen some quite large ones.

4. Is a 6 gallon a good size for a single red “honey” gourami?
No. Bettas hover and are ambush predators. Honeys swim around and need more space. They're both anabantoids, but it ends there. You can keep a honey alive in a 6 with steady maintenance, but it isn't ideal. If it's a labiosa, the space will be very tight.

5. Would adding 6 to 8 chilli rasboras be a good idea?
Absolutely not, in a tank that size. If it were an 80ltr, I'd say yes.

6. Are the red “honey” gourami peaceful like the honey?
It's relative. I bred T chuna for quite some time, and they were peaceful fish if they had room to get out of each others' way. They were real honeys. T labiosa are rougher characters, and when the very red morphs were developed, I think the "honey gourami" name was hijacked so aquarists would buy them thinking they were the more peaceful and gentle cousin.

 

[Bella J]

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My bedroom is actually pretty small. Just wanted to give you an idea that you could make it work. And yes, my two guinea pigs have 15 square feet. It's not about having a big bedroom, it's about making the most out of that space. I had to get rid of a couple pieces of furntiure to get this cage for my guinea pigs, and I had to clear off the top of my bookshelf to put my tank.

Good for you.

 

[Bella J]

Budget and space are genuinely limiting factors, and we can't just snap our fingers, pray or buy lottery tickets and solve that. Half the thought in this hobby goes into finding ways to ignore the limits space imposes on our aquarium ambitions. But you asked very pointed questions. I'll give you my answers, which you can accept or reject.


1. Are red “honey” gourami actually honey gourami with just a different colour strain?
Both, and neither. The trade name in English can be applied to 3 creatures, as already mentioned. It could be labiosa, chuna or a cross. It can also be labiosa treated with hormones, in which case the red will fade. In the marketing of aquarium fish, some English names are used for several different fish, or one fish can have a whole list of trade names...

2. Do the rules for honey gourami apply to the red “honey” gourami?
Probably not. If it is labiosa, it's a bigger fish in time. It's more aggressive than chuna.

3. Do these red “honey” gourami get bigger than the honey?
Double the size. I've seen some quite large ones.

4. Is a 6 gallon a good size for a single red “honey” gourami?
No. Bettas hover and are ambush predators. Honeys swim around and need more space. They're both anabantoids, but it ends there. You can keep a honey alive in a 6 with steady maintenance, but it isn't ideal. If it's a labiosa, the space will be very tight.

5. Would adding 6 to 8 chilli rasboras be a good idea?
Absolutely not, in a tank that size. If it were an 80ltr, I'd say yes.

6. Are the red “honey” gourami peaceful like the honey?
It's relative. I bred T chuna for quite some time, and they were peaceful fish if they had room to get out of each others' way. They were real honeys. T labiosa are rougher characters, and when the very red morphs were developed, I think the "honey gourami" name was hijacked so aquarists would buy them thinking they were the more peaceful and gentle cousin.

Thank you.