My male betta with babies!

[yeeviabetta]

Wou! Someone already know more. LOL I saw the one is not this. It is written and post in the web about experimenting leaving the father with the babies.
For me, As long as ten days, babies bigger and the babies know how to eat right with belly full of food, it is time to take them out from lossing babies. LOL
I wish my male betta eat more of the fries because it is too much in the tank! The last time I got 250 more... err.

 

[cation]

I think the article you are referring to may be here, on BettySpendens.

 

[yeeviabetta]

That is part of one I had read before. I think there still got another one that has two parts too. I still can't find it! Errr......
Thanks for the link. I was there too and can't find it. LOL Thanks cations.

 

[yeeviabetta]

I just took out the male and I put him back with all the females nearby. He is flaring with others females now. LOL What a happy stud! Olala..hehehe
Yup. the babies are big enough for me to takecare now. LOL It is the easy way to take care of the babies without problems. big too.

 

[Tempestuousfury]

Not all breeders are as lucky when they keep the dad in. If it works for you, then great.

 

[cation]

That is part of one I had read before. I think there still got another one that has two parts too. I still can't find it! Errr......
Thanks for the link. I was there too and can't find it. LOL Thanks cations.

The article I posted is a two parter...here's the second half, published about 2 months later.

 

[yeeviabetta]

Oh yes! that is the second part.
I think you need a big big tank to do the experiment. Like a small pond padi field! That is how they can survive in wild. So is that you the one who post them? How amazing.
Yes, that is the one article that's make me changing to method of breeding betta. Give and take in my method. Right now is the best how to breed. For me, the male betta and the babies. So easy to takecare now. LOL

 

[cation]

Nope, that isn't my article on bettysplendens. The thread I linked to earlier that is on this forum is my story of raising the fry with dad. It's an interesting experiment, that's for sure.

 

[yeeviabetta]

uha. Now everything is clear. Good!

 

[f250fisherman]

I'v read both of those in the past. Thats not research. There is nothing about the saliva being the mothers milk. My point is someone says you can do this, then someone says you can, and before long, rumors become the method. Bullcrap. Any ideas about how many fry have been eaten this way? It seems vee's the only one on here who managed to have any significant number of fry survive. If many breeders would do this, and have successful results, then I could believe there is something to it. I don't buy the saliva part....boosting the immune system, etc. Bettas are losing their immune system due to over medicating, and in-breeding past the accepted limits. I don't care if Vee wants to spawn that way..it's his business. However, there are already some on this board alone who now think this is the way to go. Be prepared for bad results. Every member here has a right to post about their spawns and how it's done. Every member has a right to challenge any information that does not follow guidelines setup for 40 yrs. Sure there will be things that are discovered to work, but leaving the male in has cost more fry lives than it's saved. As far as the Alpha males go...the Alpha males of a spawn can barely eat their own food at that age, let alone tear up their siblings. The part that really gets me is the saliva part...Not one bit of evidence anywhere to prove this..surely not in those articles. If you find some evidence to this, will it be an opinion....or scientific data supporting the benefits of Betta saliva on fry? If it's true..then I want to know about it. If it's not true.....

 

[Sandusky]

I don't care if Vee wants to spawn that way..it's his business. However, there are already some on this board alone who now think this is the way to go. Be prepared for bad results. Every member here has a right to post about their spawns and how it's done. Every member has a right to challenge any information that does not follow guidelines setup for 40 yrs.

So why are you still harping on him then, you've made your point? Leave him alone and stop spamming. If others want to breed like this it's their choice, they should ALWAYS look around and do research on the many ways but how they want to do it is fine by them.

How are the DT's comming Yeeviabetta?

 

[cation]

Y'know, I can understand fisherman's point. It's not the experimenting that bothers him, I don't think. I think that it's the fact that Yee starts out by telling us (the forum) to leave our dads in for 10 days. I certainly don't care if he wants to breed that way - I've done it before too. But more traditional methods have a higher survival and success rate than this method. It shouldn't be recommended to a beginner, or presented as a currently accepted method of breeding, because it isn't.

Of course, fisherman can speak for himself. Sorry for putting words in your mouth....

 

[Sandusky]

Ok, i see where you're comming from. Though i would at least have expected begining breeders to research around extensively, but some just dive head long.

 

[f250fisherman]

Thank you cation...you understand exactly. Sandusky..if you have the right to tell me to stop posting something, I should have the same right. If you noticed, right away someone said..ohhhh neat..I think I'll try it. Thats what happens when this stuff gets introduced to new breeders. Thats my point, and if I want to make my point..I will. If you want to comment further..feel free, but I'll say what I want. Hopefully at least some new breeders have thought..Hmmm, maybe I better think about this before trying it.

Sorry vee..it's nothing personal, I just don't agree. Thats the thing about an open forum, anyone can comment on it.

 

[Bettaman]

I'v read both of those in the past. Thats not research. There is nothing about the saliva being the mothers milk. My point is someone says you can do this, then someone says you can, and before long, rumors become the method. Bullcrap. Any ideas about how many fry have been eaten this way? It seems vee's the only one on here who managed to have any significant number of fry survive. If many breeders would do this, and have successful results, then I could believe there is something to it. I don't buy the saliva part....boosting the immune system, etc. Bettas are losing their immune system due to over medicating, and in-breeding past the accepted limits. I don't care if Vee wants to spawn that way..it's his business. However, there are already some on this board alone who now think this is the way to go. Be prepared for bad results. Every member here has a right to post about their spawns and how it's done. Every member has a right to challenge any information that does not follow guidelines setup for 40 yrs. Sure there will be things that are discovered to work, but leaving the male in has cost more fry lives than it's saved. As far as the Alpha males go...the Alpha males of a spawn can barely eat their own food at that age, let alone tear up their siblings. The part that really gets me is the saliva part...Not one bit of evidence anywhere to prove this..surely not in those articles. If you find some evidence to this, will it be an opinion....or scientific data supporting the benefits of Betta saliva on fry? If it's true..then I want to know about it. If it's not true.....

i Quite agree it needs some more kind of proof when my siblings hatch they head for the hills not go too dad for a drink of milk.......he chases them and tries to put them in the nest again but sorry as soon as his back it turned they are gone again into the java moss out of his way.....i must admit i have tried leaving the male in and lost the fry every single one Big mistake im happy it has worked for you but i certainly would not risk or recommmend it with any more of my spawns and I'm sure in the wild there is a lot more space for the fry to get away to fend for themselves.....