My Guppies And My Mollies

[Lepistes yosun]

Hello Iam new at this web site I have a question how many guppy and molly live together in 30 liter aquarium ? I have one stingray aquarium fish thanks for your answers

 

[fluttermoth]

to the forum.

You haven't got a stingray in a 30l, I hope!

You could have six or seven male guppies in a tank that size, but no females (there wouldn't be enough room for fry) and no mollies, they get too big.

 

[beccalovely]

You could have six or seven male guppies in a tank that size, but no females (there wouldn't be enough room for fry) and no mollies, they get too big.

Can male guppies live happily together without females then?

 

[fluttermoth]

Yes they can.

They may squabble a bit with each other, but they'd do that with females present too. Male Endler's would probably be a better choice, as they're smaller and better natured than guppies anyway, but there are loads of other tiny fish that would be ok in there; ember tetras or chilli rasboras would both be suitable.

 

[Lepistes yosun]

Thanks for your answers I am going to buy 3 male 3 feamale guppy Because I asked a man who is a pet shop owner he said me that you can buy six guppy 3 male 3 female and he is my dads friend also I will do it

 

[beccalovely]

Thanks for your answers I am going to buy 3 male 3 feamale guppy Because I asked a man who is a pet shop owner he said me that you can buy six guppy 3 male 3 female and he is my dads friend also I will do it

I don't want to contradict a family friend, but the advice I've received both on here and from my aquatic store is that if there is only a ratio of one male to one female guppy then the females will get too pestered and stressed, and the males may get stroppy. I was told it should be a minimum of 2 females to each male, or all males/all females. Of course if i'm wrong i'm sure someone will advise.

Good luck with whatever you choose, I have three guppies and I love them, they're great!

 

[Animal Lover 2000]

Thanks for your answers I am going to buy 3 male 3 feamale guppy Because I asked a man who is a pet shop owner he said me that you can buy six guppy 3 male 3 female and he is my dads friend also I will do it

I don't want to contradict a family friend, but the advice I've received both on here and from my aquatic store is that if there is only a ratio of one male to one female guppy then the females will get too pestered and stressed, and the males may get stroppy. I was told it should be a minimum of 2 females to each male, or all males/all females. Of course if i'm wrong i'm sure someone will advise.

Good luck with whatever you choose, I have three guppies and I love them, they're great!

ya becca is right

 

[PrairieSunflower]

If you have a 30 litre tank and get 3 males and 3 females... you will end up with 60 or more fish in your tank within about 6 weeks... and then 60 more in about a month after that and 60 more the next month... etc etc.

An equal number of males and females will result in a bit more bickering and a lot of harassment of the females.

 

[Lepistes yosun]

Thanks for your answers. I made research about guppies, i will take one male-three female guppy

 

[fluttermoth]

And what will you do when the fry come along? A 30l tank just isn't big enough for fry to grow properly and you'll be overstocked in no time at all.

For the welfare of your fish, please listen to what myself and the other posters are telling you and get males only.

 

[beccalovely]

And what will you do when the fry come along? A 30l tank just isn't big enough for fry to grow properly and you'll be overstocked in no time at all.

For the welfare of your fish, please listen to what myself and the other posters are telling you and get males only.

Would the fry just be eaten by the guppies? Surely very few, if any, would survive? And as awful as that sounds, isn't it just nature? I could be wrong, just asking
I suppose the main difference would be that in nature a larger space would provide more opportunity for the fry to hide/get away and increase their chances of survival. Surely a lot would still be eaten by predators though?

 

[SandraNewbie]

Would the fry just be eaten by the guppies?

Depends on the currents in your tank. Depends on what plants and decorations are in your tank. Depends on the size and temperment of the adult guppies. Depends on your water parameters. Depends on any other organisms in the tank.

In short, no guarantees. I have my guppies in with balas who are too small to eat the adults in a tank with no really dense decor and some still survive from time to time (I've budgeted space in the tank for this).

I knew someone with a AquaStart 320 (28L) who started with 5 guppies (2male:1Female) and it got to the point where he was having to do 75% water changes twice a week because he was breeding more guppies than any local stockist could take. And the inbreeding level got to the point where he had to start adding more guppies to introduce variation.

He now has a 165L and a supply chain.

I'd get male only or female only if you don't have a plan for the fry.

 

[snazy]

And what will you do when the fry come along? A 30l tank just isn't big enough for fry to grow properly and you'll be overstocked in no time at all.

For the welfare of your fish, please listen to what myself and the other posters are telling you and get males only.

Would the fry just be eaten by the guppies? Surely very few, if any, would survive? And as awful as that sounds, isn't it just nature? I could be wrong, just asking
I suppose the main difference would be that in nature a larger space would provide more opportunity for the fry to hide/get away and increase their chances of survival. Surely a lot would still be eaten by predators though?

It depends on your guppies. I've rarely seen my males eating any fry, they've got smaller mouths too. The females eventually get sick of eating fry and early or later, even if you only get 4-5 survivors in your tank, you will be heading for an overstocked tank disaster. In 30 litres I wouldn't keep more than 3-4 guppies at all times. What type of filter do you have installed, in terms of water flow rate per hour?

 

[beccalovely]

Hmmmm as I find myself (due to what was obviously v bad advice from the LFS) in the same situation, I'm now concerned I will end up overrun with guppy fry! The LFS advised none would survive and that I should def have 2 females to go with the one male I had rescued...

Have added a couple of pics to answer the questions about plants etc (none are real).

There are no other fish, just the three guppies (although LFS reckoned i could have 6 guppies, 2 dwarf gourami and a tank cleaner in this 30L biOrb!!!!)
They are fairly juvenile I think, although old enough to breed, and they're less than an inch long.
Flow rate etc no idea - it's the standard biOrb pump/filter system with the bubble tube up the middle that agitates the water surface.

The LFS said that 'if by some miracle' (their exact words) some fry survived, they would take them back, but they really made out like this wouldn't happen....

 

[snazy]

There's plenty of plants for fry to hide in this biorb . I think a male only tank is so much more beatiful(though there are some stunning females these days)The tank will be fry proof and they actually stick together and play with each other unlike some other male species. I love watching them flare to one another. Also, I hate seeing the females getting chased around constantly, the males have completely different behaviour around females and spent their time trying to make babies rather than explore and play.