Underwurlde
Always look on the bright side of life..
I'm sure you meant to say metic not imperial. 
Imperial = Gallons, Inches, Ferkins, Beardy Tossers etc.
Andy
Imperial = Gallons, Inches, Ferkins, Beardy Tossers etc.
Andy
My First Tropical Tank
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I'm sure you meant to say metic not imperial.
Imperial = Gallons, Inches, Ferkins, Beardy Tossers etc.
Andy
I meant an imperial Gallon as supposed to a US gallon:
So basically gallons in UK - i would say that as I'm English though!
I'm going to look into these fish tomorrow which would anyone recommend as my top 3 ones to look at regarding my tank size of 60Litre's and there's already two sunset platys in there? anybody?!
Kuhli loach/4-5 corys for the bottom
betta/Dwarf Gourami **
Albino Cory's (corydoras)
Guppys
Black Molly's
Sunset platys
Xiphophorus hellerii (swordtail) - three female one male
Fancy Guppy Poecilia reticulata
Obviously not intending on all of these fish in the tank!
Thanks
Kuhli loach/4-5 corys for the bottom
betta/Dwarf Gourami **
Albino Cory's (corydoras)
Guppys
Black Molly's
Sunset platys
Xiphophorus hellerii (swordtail) - three female one male
Fancy Guppy Poecilia reticulata
Obviously not intending on all of these fish in the tank!
Thanks
Underwurlde
Always look on the bright side of life..
They're both imperial, beit US or UK. Why there has to be a difference, God only knows. Bloody yanks! Bit like Engish and 'American' English. Pah!
We & the yanks both use imperial systems albeit slightly & horribly different. The UK is now going the metric route (thank GOD). The US are an isolated & staid bunch. I doubt half of them know or even care what metric is....
The beauty of metic is its simplicity. e.g. 1ml in 1 Litre = 1ppm. How easy is that for dosing 'things'!!!
Compare that to 1 tsp (is that an English tsp, an Old English tsp or an American tsp) in 1 Gallon (is that an English Gallon, an Old English Gallon or an American Gallon) is.... I don't know and I don't care...
Mucho confusion abounds when people yak in terms of 'Gallons'. Some things are assumed e.g. when someone states 'Watts per Gallon' they are talking about US Gallons (because this is where the term was coined), BUT if you didn't know that.... (There are 3 words in assume....)
Andy
PS: I'll shut up now....
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Don't bother with mollies they're a pain in the butt.
Get a fighter they're the coolest little fish on the planet, but DONT mix with guppies.
Get 6 same type Cories - they are best in this grouping.
Now you have something at the top and something on the bottom, therefore stock the rest of the tank with 'middlers', such as tetras etc. AS for swords I have no experience.
We & the yanks both use imperial systems albeit slightly & horribly different. The UK is now going the metric route (thank GOD). The US are an isolated & staid bunch. I doubt half of them know or even care what metric is....
The beauty of metic is its simplicity. e.g. 1ml in 1 Litre = 1ppm. How easy is that for dosing 'things'!!!
Compare that to 1 tsp (is that an English tsp, an Old English tsp or an American tsp) in 1 Gallon (is that an English Gallon, an Old English Gallon or an American Gallon) is.... I don't know and I don't care...
Mucho confusion abounds when people yak in terms of 'Gallons'. Some things are assumed e.g. when someone states 'Watts per Gallon' they are talking about US Gallons (because this is where the term was coined), BUT if you didn't know that.... (There are 3 words in assume....)
Andy
PS: I'll shut up now....
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Don't bother with mollies they're a pain in the butt.
Get a fighter they're the coolest little fish on the planet, but DONT mix with guppies.
Get 6 same type Cories - they are best in this grouping.
Now you have something at the top and something on the bottom, therefore stock the rest of the tank with 'middlers', such as tetras etc. AS for swords I have no experience.
Well thank you - that i will do and as for the metric and imperial - 'dang boy' (in cheesy American accent) you know your measurements!
spudgun2k
Fish Fanatic
corys are great need about 4ish for them to be really happy.
dwarf gourami's are difficult to look after as they are quite prone to infections, might leave those for the future.
i would get a shole of approx six 6 banded barbs they are great but would like a large plant to patrol.
guppys imo get boring.
mollies are really nice and would like a little salt, so dont get any scaleless fish.
sunset platties are nice, with more females be aware of the fry you will get... loads! lol.
good luck.
dwarf gourami's are difficult to look after as they are quite prone to infections, might leave those for the future.
i would get a shole of approx six 6 banded barbs they are great but would like a large plant to patrol.
guppys imo get boring.
mollies are really nice and would like a little salt, so dont get any scaleless fish.
sunset platties are nice, with more females be aware of the fry you will get... loads! lol.
good luck.
p.s i know this probably belongs in another topic but as it's to do with the tank pic don't know whether anyone can see in the pic but i have an air stone by the ornamental rock AND an air curtain positioned parallel and close to the back on the back.
So last night the thought 'Too much oxygen... - is that even possible?' came to mind - is it?
Thanks
So last night the thought 'Too much oxygen... - is that even possible?' came to mind - is it?
Thanks
Underwurlde
Always look on the bright side of life..
OK, too much oxygen would be: take fish out of tank and put on desk.
Sorry, only kiddin...
Believe it or not, your airstone and air curtain are doing next to naff all for the levels of oxygen in the tank. Super-duper expensive (and I'm talking 50 quid plus) air stones that 'mist' the gas into super fine bubbles do have an effect by substantially increasing the surface area of the gas available to the H20 in the tank.
Think of it like this. Air goes down tube and 20 fat bubbles come out and 1/3rd of a second later they've buggered off out through the surface of the water. No where near enough time for any gaseous exchange to tank place (granted, some will take place, but on the grand scale of things, naff all).
IMO, all these things are good for is to look good.
The gaseous exchange is best through a surface of water that is 'gently agitiated' by the filter exhaust. This is why a wide flat tank can hold a larger stock of fish than a tall narrow tank for the same amount of water. The former case has a larger surface area.
No doubt someone will come along and prove that I really do spout utter bollocks though, in which case we'll both learn something!
Andy
Sorry, only kiddin...
Believe it or not, your airstone and air curtain are doing next to naff all for the levels of oxygen in the tank. Super-duper expensive (and I'm talking 50 quid plus) air stones that 'mist' the gas into super fine bubbles do have an effect by substantially increasing the surface area of the gas available to the H20 in the tank.
Think of it like this. Air goes down tube and 20 fat bubbles come out and 1/3rd of a second later they've buggered off out through the surface of the water. No where near enough time for any gaseous exchange to tank place (granted, some will take place, but on the grand scale of things, naff all).
IMO, all these things are good for is to look good.
The gaseous exchange is best through a surface of water that is 'gently agitiated' by the filter exhaust. This is why a wide flat tank can hold a larger stock of fish than a tall narrow tank for the same amount of water. The former case has a larger surface area.
No doubt someone will come along and prove that I really do spout utter bollocks though, in which case we'll both learn something!
Andy
I can see your point - i did see an air sponge which claimed to mist the air into the water at my LFS for a fraction of £50 so will check that out i have seen the same kind of air 'mist' stones used in nano-reefs on this forum that look like the one i saw - so i guess they work.
Oh well mine do look good atm like you said!
Underwurlde
Always look on the bright side of life..
And another thing.... (hope i'm not boring you)
Airstones cause surface agitation - bad for CO2 levels because of some wired chemical 'thing'. I mention this becasue you have plants & CO2 for plants is THE most important thing. It's the carbon in Carbon Dioxide that is the basic building block for plants: I remember as a kid a cool experiemt I did at school using cress - we weighed a sealed box of the stuff (top open ONLY to the air) as it grew. And as it grew, it got heavier and the question was: Where does the extra weight mass come from? Answer: The air, i.e. CO2....
Therefore I'd say.....
.... take the airstone and curtian out......
(I'm ducking BTW).
Andy
PS Have you thought of adding CO2
??
IMHO, plants are a hell of a lot harder to keep (properly) than just fishies.....
Airstones cause surface agitation - bad for CO2 levels because of some wired chemical 'thing'. I mention this becasue you have plants & CO2 for plants is THE most important thing. It's the carbon in Carbon Dioxide that is the basic building block for plants: I remember as a kid a cool experiemt I did at school using cress - we weighed a sealed box of the stuff (top open ONLY to the air) as it grew. And as it grew, it got heavier and the question was: Where does the extra weight mass come from? Answer: The air, i.e. CO2....
Therefore I'd say.....
.... take the airstone and curtian out......
(I'm ducking BTW).
Andy
PS Have you thought of adding CO2
??IMHO, plants are a hell of a lot harder to keep (properly) than just fishies.....
It is a nice tank for a first start. Lovely.
I think Molly could be staying in there happily too as it helps to clear the layer of "oil" on the surface. I don't find it has any problem in living in non-brackish water tank.
I think Molly could be staying in there happily too as it helps to clear the layer of "oil" on the surface. I don't find it has any problem in living in non-brackish water tank.
And another thing.... (hope i'm not boring you)
Airstones cause surface agitation - bad for CO2 levels because of some wired chemical 'thing'. I mention this becasue you have plants & CO2 for plants is THE most important thing. It's the carbon in Carbon Dioxide that is the basic building block for plants: I remember as a kid a cool experiemt I did at school using cress - we weighed a sealed box of the stuff (top open ONLY to the air) as it grew. And as it grew, it got heavier and the question was: Where does the extra weight mass come from? Answer: The air, i.e. CO2....
Therefore I'd say.....
.... take the airstone and curtian out......
(I'm ducking BTW).
Andy
PS Have you thought of adding CO2
IMHO, plants are a hell of a lot harder to keep (properly) than just fishies.....
I thought plants automatically used sunlight or in this context the sun-glo fluorescent lamp to convert sunlight to energy using chlorophyll thus using carbon dioxide in the daytime and turning it into oxygen and then the reverse happened overnight?
Going to get my new fish in a bit will post new pics
It is a nice tank for a first start. Lovely.
I think Molly could be staying in there happily too as it helps to clear the layer of "oil" on the surface. I don't find it has any problem in living in non-brackish water tank.
Mollies are surface fish then as in top middle and bottom dwellers? - i never knew that...
I guess my only reservation is that I've already got two live bearer's in there, soon to become about 3 females and one male and i don't want a tank full of fry lol
Got two more female sunset platy's so now the other female in the tank doesn't need to be harassed by the male!
not the way the male is already circling the two females in the bag thinking 'mm fresh meat'
off to get some Cory's now
not the way the male is already circling the two females in the bag thinking 'mm fresh meat'
off to get some Cory's now
Biff0r
Fish Fanatic
Got two more female sunset platy's so now the other female in the tank doesn't need to be harassed by the male!
not the way the male is already circling the two females in the bag thinking 'mm fresh meat'
off to get some Cory's now
wow you have just made me drag the misses and kids out to get some more!
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