I've tried a thing (killies)

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I'm getting ambitious in my old age here. Last week, I made two 24 gallon (ish) tanks, using the IKEA shelf glass trick that @MattW introduced me to. I put them on a high rack at eye level, which means the tops are at six feet/almost 2 metres from the ground. I have a small sturdy step ladder for working in them from above. I put in a layer of pool filter sand, then placed large rocks at one end of each, following the aquascaping rule of thirds. In one tank, there is a gravel "pot" made of chemically inert shale, with a Bolbitis heudelotti aquatic fern in it, about 5 cm above the rest of the tank substrate. In the other, the wall of volcanic amalgam rock hides an air driven box filter.

A couple of years ago, I laughed at a TV ad while my daughters were there, so they bought me the product as a joke. It's a 'super' 2 sided tape about which outrageous claims are made on tv. It isn't very good. But I used it attached to the outside glass on the sides to run a 4cm wide piece of plastic screen across the length of the tanks on top. All along the backs I have placed roots in peace lilies I had grown for such a project, and bedraggled Boston ferns, which have done extraordinarily well in past tanks. The screen, with an intentionally rough edge, holds the plants so the foliage is dry but the roots are in the water.

The tanks aren't heated. The room is good for the fish I keep. I put flat glass panes as a top, and the lighting is from a plant grow light suspended above. There is also ambient light in the room from 2 windows, likely not enough for algae trouble. I scattered Anubias species around in both tanks. All plants used are unrooted epiphytes. I doubt the lighting would support stem species.

I have tried some aquascaping tricks, but these are first and foremost long term fish breeding set ups. I think they look good, but with function in mind, I've added 2 spawning mops to each, and they uglify a tank very effectively.

I'll take pictures once the new sand haze of the tanks clears. They are still a touch cloudy.

Tank one gets a mixed group group of wild caught and F-1 Epiplatys huberi. They are due to be bred again, for the second round since I caught them in 2023. They gave me the 'large number of roots in the tank' idea as that was what their habitat was like, with the stiff, woody roots of bushes descending into the water, and the fish hanging in the relative calm area in a highly oxygenated, quick moving stream.

Tank two has a group of Aphyosemion escherichi, also from the 2023 trip. They came from a puddle at the base of a waterfall, in flowing leaf litter conditions. I think they had survived the fall from an unseen stream above the waterfall, and looking up at the bushes along the edge, it appeared like the stream previously described. This is a slightly larger and more aggressive killie than I usually keep, but I hope the roots, rocks and wood give young males places to hide. I had despaired of being able to keep this irreplaceable fish as all the young were females, but just before my last wild male died I found 4 fry, 2 of which became males. The group has now begun breeding.

The mops will stay until (or if...) I have collected enough eggs to safely move forward, and will go in if anyone wants eggs mailed. They never look good, but they're temporary. The escherichi periodically fight as adults but seem to let fry grow up with them, while the huberi eat everything, including their own young. If I wanted to be authentic, I'd cultivate small spiders in the plants overhanging, as in the wild the bushes had enormous numbers. But noooo.

So, pictures will follow, but I'm amusing myself with these projects.
 
Very interesting 🤔 . I find this very interesting indeed and will look forward to the pictures and the results . Certainly not your standard Killifish spawning set up and I am curious as to how it will work .
 
As a fellow senior I can tell you that, in my downsizing, I have managed to end up with only 2/12 tanks where I need a small, 3-step A-frame ladder I must use for working in those two tanks. But, I am well aware that older people have an increasing tendency of falling off of ladders or even step stools. I have w such stools which I use mostly for sitting one when working on my 3 remaining under tanks.

The problem is one of those tanks is a 125 and holds my clown loaches and red line barbs. My clowns are my longest held and favorite fish. The other tank is the inwall75. I priced what it would cost for my carpenter to come in and lower that tank by about 1 foot and then change the doors for it as well as the space below it which also held a built in tank. There, only the doors would have to be changed. I asked if that work could be done for $1,000 or less. I was told likely not, it might be more like $1,500. That was about 2 years ago.

I am no longer ambitious about keeping new fish any more. The only thing I have still spawning are the WC L173. Fish spawn in the communities but that mostly means a free lunch for something. I will no longer work outside on ladders or use chain saws, hedge trimmers etc. Also in the past 25+ years water appears to have gained a lot of weight.

It isn't that there are not a few fish plans I had which I did never got the opportunity to bring to fruition. One of these was to watch splash tetras spawn. *sigh*

GaryE- It is not the ladder's lack of sturdiness which causes us to fall. It is our lack of Stick-to-itiveness that is to blame.
 
GaryE- It is not the ladder's lack of sturdiness which causes us to fall. It is our lack of Stick-to-itiveness that is to blame.
I appreciate the thought. I'm not a guy who thinks these things don't matter - I have a rack across from the one these tanks are on and it happens to have an extension built on to the front that works as a grab bar. It's a 5 step ladder, and I only need two as well. We do have to think that way after a certain age. I'm not sure what that age is and I may already be well beyond it...

So, if put the tank on lower racks, my back hurts when i crouch to look in, and my knees creak when I get up. If I put them up high, I can fall off the ladder. I keep sticking my hand in the outflow from the HOBs in case one of them is actually the fountain of youth.
 
So, I will never win a Tank of the Month, if only because of my photo skills (and the tanks)
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. And these tanks are uncooked - they'll have to simmer for a few months before the roots grow in and they come to complete life. Here, they are, on full day one. The 2 tanks. One of the fish in tank, Aphyosemion escherichi 2. The future houseplant row behind the tank. I'm going to get some plants to attach to the black mesh as a background. Some of the roots in the period of adjustment from dirt to water. A view between the over and the surface.

The mops are temporary. They'll come out when I've collected enough eggs to ensure a safe population level. Already, I got three eggs from the escherichi. Btw, it is close to the bluest fish I have ever seen, but never in photos. It's all reflection.

When the roots come in, they should provide shelter to fry and juveniles. That will make the mops supplementary. For now til the growth happens, they're needed.
 
It is a fine looking aquarium - the only problem is that it has a killi instead of a dwarf cichild. We all know dwarf children make the world go round.
 
The tanks are working out, or at least one is. The Aphyosemion, which was giving me no eggs, has given me a steady number in this set up. The Epiplatys will probably be moved to a more traditional tank, as they aren't breeding and are nervous. There's too much light and it's too open, I think.
 
It is a fine looking aquarium - the only problem is that it has a killi instead of a dwarf cichild. We all know dwarf children make the world go round.
I tried Killifish but picking eggs, etc. got old (like me) really quick. I have a few 'funge' young adults that I will post on Aquabid.

Funny, I did, in fact, move to dwarf cichlids. Currently trying to sell breeding adult pairs and juvenile L. dorsigera and German Blue Rams (or whatever they are now called).

Now, again in my older age, I am moving on to colorful livebearers in planted tanks. I'm not into the hassles of selling fish online and shipping them. I will just let nature do what nature does and enjoy the colors...
 
3 months later, the set up is paying off at 50%. A bunch of young Aphyosemion escherichi have grown up in with their parents. That has been a difficult killie for me, and since I caught it myself, a meaningful one. I'm glad to see another generation.
The Epiplatys didn't work in the other tank. They stayed too skittish with the light. I received some Procatopus similis, and QTed them in it. They are now in breeders with a few extra males in the tank. And it is probably going to get a pair of dwarf Cichlids in it - as my Pelvicachromis taeniatus young are sexing out. @Newbie would likely approve. It'll stay a set up for fish I caught myself.

The emergent plants have done very well, and the roots systems are spreading with minimal algae issues despite the sun exposure from a window 4 feet away.
 

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