I Would Like Your Opnion - Experienced Or Not.

It may well be, the trick is in finding the proper method, which includes hardware, maintenance, as well as many other things.


****Edit To Add****

Name calling is not one of the requirements for finding the proper methods, and will not be tolerated.
my retarded comment?

Obviously.

Can we please keep it clean cos its meant to be a constructive post to try to get the betta advisors to better thier info, (or at least guide people f they plan on keeping smaller tanks)
 
This....

imagine .....

Im a new member, im telling you that i have no option than use a 2G tank cos thats all i can have...

Would you ignore me? would you say then you cant have a betta unless you get a bigger tank? or would you guide me on to take the best care possible for my betta in a 2g tank?
 
This....

imagine .....

Im a new member, im telling you that i have no option than use a 2G tank cos thats all i can have...

Would you ignore me? would you say then you cant have a betta unless you get a bigger tank? or would you guide me on to take the best care possible for my betta in a 2g tank?
this is what i do. My link
 
irrelivant, thats about a clown fish in a marine tank....


Stay on topic..

Have you even got much experince with bettas? i see you have only ever made one thread in here and that was to ask about them.
 
This is all well and good but just by writing down (Fact: Blah blah blah) Doesn't make it so. I would love nothing more than to rub some noses in this article. The "nothing less than 5 gallons for a single Betta" preachers that I constantly engage in battle on Yahoo fish Q&A. Not That I disagree with you but how about references and actual facts to back up your "FACTS". I keep all my single males in 1 gallon jars without a problem. Most breeders I've talked to do as well. Most people know that but continue to belittle and put down someone for asking a question about their Betta in a bowl instead of teaching them proper maintanence. I have people that email me directly to avoid the chance of being jumped on and having their *ss ridden. A link or scientific journal, something. Throw me a bone so I can give it to some of the "Bigger the better Snobs". If I had 5 gallons for every fish in my house, my house would BE one big fish tank.

http://bettysplendens.com/articles/page.imp?articleid=876

BettySplendens: At what age do you start the jarring process?

Sieg: As soon as they start fighting, around eight weeks old, then they go to 5 gallon tanks, separated in 6 compartments. Only the show males go in half gallon to one gallon jars.

BettySplendens: How often do you have to change the water in jars?

Sieg: Every 2 to 3 days.

http://bettysplendens.com/articles/page.imp?articleid=863

BettySplendens: At what age do you start the jarring process?

Phil: That can vary between 6 weeks to 10 weeks. I usually only jar the males.

BettySplendens: How often do you have to change the water in jars?

Phil: I use beanie baby containers that hold 1/2 gallon of water. These must be 100% completely changed every third day.

http://bettysplendens.com/articles/page.imp?articleid=845

BettySplendens: At what age do you start the jarring process?

Dan: I start culling at six weeks and up. Males are first placed in floating containers in the tank and allowed to develop for a few weeks to see if they are jar-worthy or not. I am very picky anymore, and very few fish make the cut.

BettySplendens: How often do you have to change the water once the youngsters are jarred?

Dan: I change my jarred fish every 48 hours, 24 on young fish I am pumping to show. That is why I cull so hard and have few surplus fish to sell, because I believe in keeping only the best and taking maximal care of them once they are deemed worthy. That makes for a happy piranha and you will do well showing, but you won't make much money selling fish. Thats ok with me though, if it was about money I would just be doing discus!
 
irrelivant, thats about a clown fish in a marine tank....


Stay on topic..

Have you even got much experince with bettas? i see you have only ever made one thread in here and that was to ask about them.
its not 100% irrelevant, different fish but the same boundaries.
experience is not an essential tool in this topic is it?

i can see from this topics comments that top keepers are keeping them in confined spaces for research,sales etc but im thinking also of the new owners of betta's.i know what is being said and i accept it with no argument :good: but from a new keepers view it looks like its ok to keep them in a 1/2 gallon tank. its a good job i asked about betta's in detail, if i wasnt so keen on research and fell across that article, i might have bought a 1g and popped the poor soul in it!.thats all im trying to get across.
 
This....

imagine .....

Im a new member, im telling you that i have no option than use a 2G tank cos thats all i can have...

Would you ignore me? would you say then you cant have a betta unless you get a bigger tank? or would you guide me on to take the best care possible for my betta in a 2g tank?
i would suggest regular water changes and guide you to the best of my ability,
i would then ask about filter or heaters ect. but i would never attack that gets no where.
 
This may be irrevelant now, but I got caught up in the physical aspect (betta health, etc) that I forgot about the other aspects, like their personality and color and such. I don't think there'll be a big argument that there is a difference in a betta in a 1/2 gallon, and a 5 gallon. I'll be honest, when I got a betta, I DID put him in a 1/2 gallon. I put them into a 5 gallon on impulse, because I felt bad for them (this is before I joined any forum at all). Very often I see "And in a bigger tank, he gets SO much better and the colors are SO pretty and he's just happier!" Frankly it's true, they seem to exhibit much more happiness in a larger tank than in a 1/2 gallon. I still would advise against 1/2 gallons, personally, because my experience with a 1/2 gallon wasn't the greatest. They were boring to me, but that's completely changed since I sent them to the 5 gallon. Luckily I did perform weekly water changes (should be done more often) and faced no deaths. Also, in a 1/2 gallon, I still find temperature stability an issue. While some people say that stability isn't a huge issue, IN MY opinion, I would still want a stable temperature anyways.

And also, please don't group everyone here at the betta section into one little group... Not everybody rejects someone who is stuck with a 2gallon, only certain people do. If you're stuck with a 2 gallon, there are still people who help them out and don't attack them. For the people who actually do have a choice, why NOT go for 5 gallon? (Frankly the Walmart 5gallon starter for $30 killed me, since it was a good deal, I keep advising people to get it because... $30 for a 5 gallon and filter really is a good deal, isn't it?)
 
irrelivant, thats about a clown fish in a marine tank....


Stay on topic..

Have you even got much experince with bettas? i see you have only ever made one thread in here and that was to ask about them.
its not 100% irrelevant, different fish but the same boundaries.
experience is not an essential tool in this topic is it?

i can see from this topics comments that top keepers are keeping them in confined spaces for research,sales etc but im thinking also of the new owners of betta's.i know what is being said and i accept it with no argument :good: but from a new keepers view it looks like its ok to keep them in a 1/2 gallon tank. its a good job i asked about betta's in detail, if i wasnt so keen on research and fell across that article, i might have bought a 1g and popped the poor soul in it!.thats all im trying to get across.


Of course its irrelivant, a clown fish is marine and and lots has to go in the tank like live rocks etc and after all the stuff they need is put in, there is not much room left for it to swim in smaller tanks.

Bettas dont require all this giving them more room.

Im not telling people to put them in 1/2 gallon tanks, im simply saying that 2G, 5G, tanks etc is acceptable if the right care is taken, yet ignorance is coming in to play from brainwashed people.

Experience is not needed to reply no, but at least try to understand the points that are being made and the facts speak for themselves.

Again, if a newbie asked me could i put a betta in a 2G tank, my reply would be this...

Well, personally i would go for a 7-10G tank, (then explain why)....... but if you are going to be suing a 2G tank, then, (and give them the info they need to help them do it the best way they can)


Its so simple what im saying, (GIVE INFORMATION TO THE BEST YOU CAN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT) at least then your doing all you can to help them and the betta.
 
a serious question that may have been overlooked and i shall ask again....

can i therefore divide a 16 us gallon tank into 32 sections and house 32 betta's each with 1/2 a gallon with the correct care?

and now i will ask in another way....

i have a 16 us gallon tank and i want to divide it into 32 sections to house 32 betta's.ive read that with the correct care i can achieve this. is 1/2 a gallon of water ok for a betta long term? will it stress the bettas out? is it somthing you would recommend doing?
 
This....

imagine .....

Im a new member, im telling you that i have no option than use a 2G tank cos thats all i can have...

Would you ignore me? would you say then you cant have a betta unless you get a bigger tank? or would you guide me on to take the best care possible for my betta in a 2g tank?
i would suggest regular water changes and guide you to the best of my ability,
i would then ask about filter or heaters ect. but i would never attack that gets no where.
:good: :good: :good: :good: :good: Exactly mate, very helpful and not judg,emtal and open minded.

This may be irrevelant now, but I got caught up in the physical aspect (betta health, etc) that I forgot about the other aspects, like their personality and color and such. I don't think there'll be a big argument that there is a difference in a betta in a 1/2 gallon, and a 5 gallon. I'll be honest, when I got a betta, I DID put him in a 1/2 gallon. I put them into a 5 gallon on impulse, because I felt bad for them (this is before I joined any forum at all). Very often I see "And in a bigger tank, he gets SO much better and the colors are SO pretty and he's just happier!" Frankly it's true, they seem to exhibit much more happiness in a larger tank than in a 1/2 gallon. I still would advise against 1/2 gallons, personally, because my experience with a 1/2 gallon wasn't the greatest. They were boring to me, but that's completely changed since I sent them to the 5 gallon. Luckily I did perform weekly water changes (should be done more often) and faced no deaths. Also, in a 1/2 gallon, I still find temperature stability an issue. While some people say that stability isn't a huge issue, IN MY opinion, I would still want a stable temperature anyways.

And also, please don't group everyone here at the betta section into one little group... Not everybody rejects someone who is stuck with a 2gallon, only certain people do. If you're stuck with a 2 gallon, there are still people who help them out and don't attack them. For the people who actually do have a choice, why NOT go for 5 gallon? (Frankly the Walmart 5gallon starter for $30 killed me, since it was a good deal, I keep advising people to get it because... $30 for a 5 gallon and filter really is a good deal, isn't it?)


Im not grouping everyone mate, just trying to get the ones who are to set in thier ways to try and understand its not always about them. and when people need help, dont discard them cos they want to do summat u dont agree with when knowledge they have could at least help the newbies more.
 
It is not advised but it can be done it will not have as long of a life i recomend 16 not 32 that will alpso cost alot of money...
 
a serious question that may have been overlooked and i shall ask again....

can i therefore divide a 16 us gallon tank into 32 sections and house 32 betta's each with 1/2 a gallon with the correct care?

and now i will ask in another way....

i have a 16 us gallon tank and i want to divide it into 32 sections to house 32 betta's.ive read that with the correct care i can achieve this. is 1/2 a gallon of water ok for a betta long term? will it stress the bettas out? is it somthing you would recommend doing?


If the 60 litres was spread out with a big surface area then why not? (but your tank is prob cubed "not long and 6" high"..

Silly qustion really cos you would be stacking in a cubed tank which is just stupid. and not even possible.

No i would not recommend it, but if they said they was doing it regarldess, id help as much as i could with info
 
cor blimey mate, its not irrelevant.lol a guy asked about putting a fish in a tank that is deemed to small! its in the same ballpark yes?

i agreed about what has been said in the facts etc. i must be writing everything down in the wrong way.

a serious question that may have been overlooked and i shall ask again....

can i therefore divide a 16 us gallon tank into 32 sections and house 32 betta's each with 1/2 a gallon with the correct care?

and now i will ask in another way....

i have a 16 us gallon tank and i want to divide it into 32 sections to house 32 betta's.ive read that with the correct care i can achieve this. is 1/2 a gallon of water ok for a betta long term? will it stress the bettas out? is it somthing you would recommend doing?


If the 60 litres was spread out with a big surface area then why not? (but your tank is prob cubed not really long and a 6" tall is it..

Silly qustion really cos you would be stacking in a cubed tank which is just stupid. and not even possible.
nope its 24 x 12 x 13 rectangular.measurements in inches.
 

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