Hospital Or Not?

[fluffycabbage]

I noticed a cotton wool blob on my female black molly yesterday (her fella is a rough old boy ) So i put her in the hospital tank, and because i happened to have some anti-fungal/fin rot treatment i stuck that in there too. I put the male in there too coz he seems to have a few little white patches here n there which im sure werent there before.
Then i noticed a white spot on the swordtail's tail - so i stuck him in there too. I'll be adding marine salt later.
That white spot has fallen off his tail already - so can i move him back into the main tank now? And just keep the temp at 30 in the hospital tank to kill off potential white spot?

Not sure what to do folks - advice would be appreciated!

 

[fluffycabbage]

anyone got any advice?

 

[OldMan47]

I would move your fish with the cotton wool look to a hospital tank and post your concerns in the tropical emergencies section. I will now move your thread there.

 

[WILDER]

How big was the white spot. Was it the size of a grain of salt?
Was there any redness to the spot.

How are the fish acting with the med. As the interpet anti fungus and finrot med can cause side effects. Not all fish tolerate the med.
It's not that good either on columnaris.

I would lower your temp.
Get you some info.

The hospital tank should be heated to approx. 74 degrees. 76 and above is the ideal breeding temperature for columnaris. Though there is some dispute over lowering the temperature, my experience has been that 72 is too low for the medication to work rapidly, 76+ causes the disease to breed more rapidly than the anti-biotic can kill, and 74 is "just right." Remember to keep this temperature stable!

 

[fluffycabbage]

How big was the white spot. Was it the size of a grain of salt?
Was there any redness to the spot.

How are the fish acting with the med. As the interpet anti fungus and finrot med can cause side effects. Not all fish tolerate the med.
It's not that good either on columnaris.

I would lower your temp.
Get you some info.

The hospital tank should be heated to approx. 74 degrees. 76 and above is the ideal breeding temperature for columnaris. Though there is some dispute over lowering the temperature, my experience has been that 72 is too low for the medication to work rapidly, 76+ causes the disease to breed more rapidly than the anti-biotic can kill, and 74 is "just right." Remember to keep this temperature stable!

Thanks for that. The mollies are in a hospital tank (60l), and seem to be tolerating the medication fine. i have now lowered the temp to 24 from 26. Its not whitespot, the patch of white on the female is 2-3mm diameter, below the dorsal fin. It has reduced but not gone.
Ive also noticed that the male appears to have a few whitish patches appearing on his chest area too. Neither seem unwell at all. Ive also added aquarium salt.

what causes columnaris? In the main tank all the other fish are fine, seems limited to just the two black mollies.

this is just before i moved them into the hospital tank

 

[AstonN24vantage]

could that just be markings? how long have you had it? maybe you just didn't notice it?

 

[fluffycabbage]

could that just be markings? how long have you had it? maybe you just didn't notice it?

Nope its not markings I noticed the day i put them into the hospital tank. wasnt there the day before. had them a few months.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Oh dear, theyre both off their food today Gonna do a full water change shortly, and add more meds. I need more salt, but nowhere locally sells salt in less than 2kg bags

 

[WILDER]

Myxazin and pimafix used together are far better for columnaris than the interpet anti fungus and finrot med.

Columnaris is caused by bad water quality, stress, overstocked tanks, unstable temp.
A bad strain of columnaris can wipe a tank out in a day.

Is the skin starting to peel away.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Myxazin and pimafix used together are far better for columnaris than the interpet anti fungus and finrot med.

Columnaris is caused by bad water quality, stress, overstocked tanks, unstable temp.
A bad strain of columnaris can wipe a tank out in a day.

Is the skin starting to peel away.

no its not. well i dont have bad water, nor is it overstocked by any means, temp is always stable (check it every day), stress i doubt it (though the female can get stressed by the male harrassing her a lot). i did read it can be caused by injury? the male does push her around and nip her sometimes (she does it to him too), i was wondering if that may be the cause.

ok will defo get some pimafix later, thats available at pets at home down the road, not sure on myxazin, will look, will prob have to travel for that. So why do they work better?

 

[WILDER]

Fungus can grow on dead tissue.

Get you a link to myxaxin by waterlife.

http/www.waterlife.co.uk/waterlife/myxazin.htm

 

[fluffycabbage]

Fungus can grow on dead tissue.

Get you a link to myxaxin by waterlife.

http/www.waterlife.co.uk/waterlife/myxazin.htm

Thanks

Have had another good look at them both, and the females white patch has pretty much gone now, but the male has developed one now, same sort of thing. I guess they'll be in there another week then!

 

[WILDER]

Can see brown marks on the fish body and fins. Are they markings. As ciolumnaris can come in a brown colour too.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing. Turn tank lights out and shine a torch on the fish for golden patches, or golden spots.

Do the fish have ago at each other alot.

 

[fluffycabbage]

Can see brown marks on the fish body and fins. Are they markings. As ciolumnaris can come in a brown colour too.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing. Turn tank lights out and shine a torch on the fish for golden patches, or golden spots.

Do the fish have ago at each other alot.

Hes a peppered molly, just markings no flicking or rubbing at all, certainly dont show any sign of irritation. the only thing thats 'off' is the fact they didnt want to eat this morning.
have just turned out lights and shone torch, nothing on female,male has a couple of small gold patches on either side of his face between his eyes and gills, no bigger than 2mm diameter. What does that mean?

Oh their poo is now whitish/clear.

They do constantly harrass eachother. Him more than her though lol

 

[WILDER]

Could be markings on the face.
Golden patches can be velvet.

Feed some shelled peas.
Clear poo can mean the fish is running on empty due to not eating. Bacterial, internal parasites.
Long stringy white poo can be constipation, bacterial infection, internal parasites.

To stimulate a fish appetite just soak there food in garlic juice.