Gravel Vacuuming With An Undergravel Filter

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I have an undergravel filter in my tank, and do weekly 30% water changes using a gravel vac.

Each time i do it, knowing full well that the gravel is the media, i wonder how much of my precious filter colony i'm sending down the drain.

Should i vacuum very gently, or is it ok to just get stuck in?
 
the majority of the bacteria is in the filter media so cleaning the substrate would have little effect in my opinion. get stuck in! lol
 
the majority of the bacteria is in the filter media so cleaning the substrate would have little effect in my opinion. get stuck in! lol
But my gravel IS the filter media!
oh i see.lol hows that working out for you?
He has an UGF.

Just get the debris off the surface, and occasionally get a little more.

Over time, your bacteria will develop more bio films, which will help them cling to the rocks more and more.

-FHM
 
I used to have an undergravel filter and got rid of it - was always having water quality problems. You will need to clean the gravel regularly every week when you do your water change. This is necessary to prevent the gravel from "channeling," where the debris collecting in the gravel blocks some passages and forces the water through channels, resulting in decreased water flow and reduced exposure to the bacteria that clean the water.

Every so often you also need to get under the filter tray and give it a hoover as over time gunk builds up under there bigtime resulting in blockages and bacteria die off if the water flow is not constant, here are the instructions:-

What you need

A wet/dry vacuum, preferably the bottle type with adjustable power;

A hose adaptor to fit onto the UGF riser pipe and the cleaner hose; (You may have to make this beforehand - about five minutes of your time!)

What you do:

Remove the cap and air stone or power-head from the UGF riser tube. (If you have more than one riser, plug the other one(s) up, so that water or air can’t get in)

Connect the adaptor to the riser.

Connect the other end to the wet/dry vacuum suction hose.

If you can adjust the power, turn it down as low as possible. (If you can’t adjust the power, just drill a hole in the adaptor that you can put your finger over should you need to. This will effectively reduce the power of the vacuum by drawing air through the hole. You can adjust the strength of the suction by moving your finger over the hole changing the amount of air it can draw.)

Switch the vacuum on for as long as it needs to reduce the water in the tank by 20%. (You need to vary the time according to the size of the tank, size of the riser tube, the adaptor and the power of the vacuum.)
Top up the tank to normal level with clean treated water.

Switch the vacuum on again as above, and stir the gravel while it’s running.

Disconnect the adaptor from the riser pipe.

Put the air stone and cap back into the riser(s). (You may want to change the air stone, depending on its condition. Sorry, this will cost you a few pennies if you do!)

Top up the tank to normal level again.

Rinse out the vacuum, holding your nose while you empty it!

You’re all done! The gravel, UGF and water are now clean and clear.

Repeat the procedure every 6 months to ensure the efficiency of the UGF. (Now who says that UGF’s are difficult to clean?)
 
Thanks Gilli, although I'm a little confused by the instructions, mainly because i'm not sure of what some of the equipment is.

I think i have quite a rudimentary UGF in that it is basically a square plate with a hole in one corner where you connect the impeller unit. From the impeller unit comes the outflow pipe which just pours the water back into the tank at the surface. No airstone or power head involved.

My gravel vac is a simple pipe with tubing to suck on and put in a bucket while i vacuum the substrate. Haven't heard of a wet/dry vac! Or a hose adaptor?

So I'm a little confused, although i appreciate the help nonetheless! It's only a little 28L cube tank.
 
If your tank is only small here is a neat idea to clean under the filter!Prop your tank up onto something at both ends so that you have access to the underneath.

Get a long piece of clear tubing from your local hardware store. Not too big in diameter because you want it small enough to snake down the uplift tubes of your UGF and flexible so it bends fairly easily. Now find a ball bearing or a small nut or small piece of metal that is attracted by a magnet. Silicone glue it or superglue it to the side of the tubing at one end. You might be able to slip the nut over the end of the tube, but put a little glue to hold it in place.

Now snake the ball bearing end of the tube down the uplift tube until you see it under the plate when you look up through the bottom glass. Start siphoning out water. Now here is the nifty/fun part. Get a magnet and from the underside of the tank you can now direct the tube anywhere you want (because of the ball bearing) under the plate to get to all the built up gunk.

Don't worry about getting it all in one cleaning since you would likely have to siphon out all the water to get close. So just do this each time you change water until it is back in reasonably good shape down there.
 
Very nifty! Unfortunately my tank has a plastic base surrounding it so i couldn't see what i was doing. But the foundations of the method are there!

Thanks!
 
If you clean your gravel properly, you do not end up with much under the filter plate that needs removing. If you fail to clean it properly and just skim the surface, you will get a build under the filter plate and be faced with the need to take things apart to clean properly. As long as you don't roughly agitate the gravel, you should be fine deep cleaning it. Unlike a conventional filtered trank where the surface of the gravel is the only part involved in the biofilter, with a UGF, the full depth of the gravel is covered with bacteria and is effective in removing ammonia. You do not need to worry about disturbing the bed because the active bit is spread through any part of the gravel that is getting good water flow. One thing you must be careful about is leaving a nice even cover of gravel over the filter plate so that all of the flow doesn't just go through a thin spot and leave the rest of the gravel bed starved of flow.
 
Great, thanks. I'm generally pretty gentle with it, although I get the tube a couple of cm into the gravel at each point by 'twisting' the tube in.

This gets it quite deep without disturbing too much of the gravel, so hopefully it's all going fine :good:
 

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