Getting 2 New Bettas Tom!:)

[Balloons&killies]

ok well . ill get some pics up tomorrow. im really mad ! icant believe i picked another male!

my females are little pigs and there really fat!

they both have this little white ball object by there but . is that the egg thing?
lol(sorry dont know the name)

 

[Jenste]

you need to listen to wha has been told to you.....return most of the bettas...you are not equipped with the proper tanks or knowledge right now. Learn how to properly care for one betta....research, then take the time to purchase quality bettas....you are either going to end up with dead fish or hundreds of unwanted mutt bettas with no genetic lineage

 

[Assaye]

Part of the problem is that pet stores and poor quality websites/forums will say it is OK to house mixed sex bettas together and give other poor advice. Given that not all bettas are killing machines and that following poor advice can seem to work in the short term, it's easy to fall into the trap of "giving it a go" and doing something like breeding fish that are too old, too weak and that are not suited or keeping male and female bettas together. It can all seem to be going fine and it's tempting to think that the people on here and other quality betta forums are just being boring or too cautious.

We don't want to ruin your fishkeeping experience out of spite or something like that. We want you to have fish you love and enjoy! However, we also know that certain things rarely work out well. Breeding without proper knowledge (and it's a really complicated subject) and keeping too few female bettas (2-3) together or keeping males with females are good examples. As I said, these things can seem to be going OK and then suddenly the poop hits the fan and you have dead or dying fish on your hands. even if the fish don't fight, the stress can lead to all sorts of health problems and even if they stay physically fine, it's not fair to make any animal live in a stressful situation.

We're trying to save you money, time and worry and the fish their lives and health.

If you can divide the 10 gallon, put one betta on each side and rehome/return the rest. Don't be tempted to keep one in an unheated, unfiltered bowl even if he seems fine initially. Don't be tempted to keep a pair of females together, even if they don't seem to fight. Don't be tempted to keep males and females mixed, even if they seem to like each other and seem to be doing OK.

As I said, we're not trying to rain on your parade. In this case, year and years of experience and some very established and experienced betta keepers are trying to tell you what we have have learned the hard way. Too often newbies think they'll "just try it out" or that they know best because they friend/local shop manager told them it would be OK and too often the animals involved get stressed, mistreated and sometimes killed as a result.

 

[BethK]

why come on here and ask for advice, when you clearly are not listening?

 

[Balloons&killies]

why come on here and ask for advice, when you clearly are not listening?

cause i thought you guys would actually help instead of critizising me cause i bought store bought bettas.
i dont think im putting any topics on bettas anymore

watever

 

[BethK]

why come on here and ask for advice, when you clearly are not listening?

cause i thought you guys would actually help instead of critizising me cause i bought store bought bettas.
i dont think im putting any topics on bettas anymore

watever

who is criticizing you for buying store bettas? no one, what is being said is that you can not house bettas of the opposite sex together or male/male.

 

[Assaye]

why come on here and ask for advice, when you clearly are not listening?

cause i thought you guys would actually help instead of critizising me cause i bought store bought bettas.
i dont think im putting any topics on bettas anymore

watever

What?

We're not saying you shouldn't buy store bought bettas! We're saying you should NOT keep male and female bettas together, that you need to do more research and that you shouldn't breed bettas without considerable knowledge of betta genetics and how to set up a breeding system.

All my male bettas are store bought. I don't have a problem with that at all!

Please listen to what we're saying instead of making assumptions based on your own prejudice and desires. It just sounds like you want us all to pat you on the back and ignore the fact that you're making mistakes that could cost fish their health and even lives. If you didn't want advice, why did you come here? And why are you keeping fish if you're not going to listen to what is best for them?

 

[Canadian Ginger]

why come on here and ask for advice, when you clearly are not listening?

cause i thought you guys would actually help instead of critizising me cause i bought store bought bettas.
i dont think im putting any topics on bettas anymore

watever

No one is really criticizing you, they are just trying to help you and keep your fish safe and healthy. It's true, you shouldn't breed unless you know what you're doing. I bought my first betta without knowing what was required, and people on here seemed just as harsh when telling me what needed to be done to fix the situation. Despite how blunt people on here can seem, they know a lot and when they give advice I suggest taking it, they are almost always right.

I have a store bought betta myself, and no one here is criticizing you for buying one, they are informing you that is an incredibly poor decision to try and breed them. They are often older, riddled with health problems, and in no state to be used for breeding. Everyone on here are just trying to keep you from losing a valued betta. If you're not planning on breeding your bettas now, then I suggest just keeping the ones you have (and can house properly) as pets for you to enjoy. You'll get to know betta behaviour and gain more experience with them. When you feel you've done enough research and are ready to start breeding, go out and buy a pair of bettas from a professional breeder (the results are so much better).

Hopefully you choose not to stop posting on the betta forums, if for no other reason than the fact that the people on here give really good advice and will do their best to help you (even if they seem a little abrasive while doing so!).

 

[Assaye]

why come on here and ask for advice, when you clearly are not listening?

cause i thought you guys would actually help instead of critizising me cause i bought store bought bettas.
i dont think im putting any topics on bettas anymore

watever

No one is really criticizing you, they are just trying to help you and keep your fish safe and healthy. It's true, you shouldn't breed unless you know what you're doing. I bought my first betta without knowing what was required, and people on here seemed just as harsh when telling me what needed to be done to fix the situation. Despite how blunt people on here can seem, they know a lot and when they give advice I suggest taking it, they are almost always right.

I have a store bought betta myself, and no one here is criticizing you for buying one, they are informing you that is an incredibly poor decision to try and breed them. They are often older, riddled with health problems, and in no state to be used for breeding. Everyone on here are just trying to keep you from losing a valued betta. If you're not planning on breeding your bettas now, then I suggest just keeping the ones you have (and can house properly) as pets for you to enjoy. You'll get to know betta behaviour and gain more experience with them. When you feel you've done enough research and are ready to start breeding, go out and buy a pair of bettas from a professional breeder (the results are so much better).

Hopefully you choose not to stop posting on the betta forums, if for no other reason than the fact that the people on here give really good advice and will do their best to help you (even if they seem a little abrasive while doing so!).

 

[BettaCrazy7]

We aren't critizing you. We are trying to help you make good desicions. Breeding pet store bettas without any knowledge will lead to a horrible outcome, and maybe even a loss of a fish. Breeding bettas isn't just about fun; it takes time, money, and dedication. Lots of dedication. Breeding veiltails isn't a good idea because you can buy VTs any where, so selling them will be hard. It's best to have an idea of what you want to breed and what you want to improve in your breeding stock. It's best to start out with a good quality pair. This can cost any where from $30 - $50. Expensive? Yes, but that's just a part of breeding bettas. It's all for the love of the betta keeping hobby.

 

[Balloons&killies]

yehh sorry guys for blowing up in your faces.
i think i just wasnt understanding what you guys were trying to say but now its clear.
i've decided to sell one of my males and one of my females.
and just keep on female and one male.
ive done some researching and im deffo not ready for breeding.

ill put up some pictures of my bettas im keeping.
in a while.

and sorry again for what i did

 

[Assaye]

yehh sorry guys for blowing up in your faces.
i think i just wasnt understanding what you guys were trying to say but now its clear.
i've decided to sell one of my males and one of my females.
and just keep on female and one male.
ive done some researching and im deffo not ready for breeding.

ill put up some pictures of my bettas im keeping.
in a while.

and sorry again for what i did

And we're sorry for getting hard on you. It's excellent that we're all on the same wavelength now

It's great that you're rehoming a male and female, the other two will be very happy in a divided 10 gallon.

Hope to see photos soon!

 

[Balloons&killies]

yup
i just have to upload them

 

[Balloons&killies]

My female.i love her color
http/s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv114/Garett101/?action=view&current=DSCF3119.jpg&t=1275487083942

My male. hes in the 27g in a little guppy breeder for right now until i rehome the other bettas.which wont be long.and will have a better pic l8ter.

http/s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv114/Garett101/?action=view&current=DSCF3119.jpg&t=1275487083942#!oZZ2QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs675.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv114%2FGarett101%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DDSCF3104.jpg%26

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

GRR I'll have to wait til I am home to see the photos...(site is blocked at work )