First Home Test... Not So Good?

so one sponge from the current tank into the new one and vice versa?

and they set get him out with a net and move him over in a cup, covering it so he doesnt jump out

EDIT

is the 2 inch chunk ive cut out of the current and put into the new one enough, or must it be a whole sponge?

what will that do to the levels in the bigger tank?
 
think of it in terms of the size of the bacteria colony, the larger the colony the quicker and more effectivley they can process ammonia and nitrite, if yoy remove some of the sponge you reduce the colony size in the main tank reducing it's ability to process ammonia, so the progress you've made in your ammonia dropping, that may slow down or go the other way but only shortly, it should recover within a few days so no major panic.
 
so bazil is in the new tank. he looks lost and a bit startled.

I guess now i should test both tanks in an hour?
 
:nod:

everything we discussed earlier with testing and water changes now applies to both tanks. you'll probably find basil's tank sorts itself out quicker than the main tank, less fish so less ammonia production.
 
did you look for filter media donation and did you test your tap water as this may help you a lot
 
Miss Wiggles, you are a legend :)


i prefer practically perfect in every way..... but legend will do :lol: :lol: ;)


just kidding..... i'm not that egotistic really, just glad i can help out.
 
supper...

before i took a sponge out of the present filter for the new tank, my tank readings were lower than the tap ones.

I keep hearing about media donation, but I havent looked at it. is it still worth doing now?



ps. practically perfect it is!!

I am going to stop ignoring my boyfriend in the half hour before I start playing scientist again lol


I suspect ill be back and flapping with new, higher levels of ammonia and nitrite!!

I guess I atleast know what to do now!! (if theyre higher levels than the tap that is!)

:)

woohoo. who said learning isnt fun?
 
Start by carrying out the large water changes rabbut mentioned - by all means, but . . . errrrrm . . . 75-90% is too much. Once there's fish in the tank, you shoul aim to change no more than 50%, because the change in water paramenters (namely pH, nitrate and temperature) can shock the fish.

TetraLinz, may i ask why you think 50% is the biggest water change advisable?

When dealing with ammonia and nitrite, the single most important thing is to remove these toxins from the water. pH will generally be the same in the tap as in the tank unless the tank has gone a long time without maintenance, temperature is easy enough to control and a drop in nitrate will benefit the fish more than shock them.

Many members on here (myself included) advocate changes of up to 100% in these circumstances and it can quite literally mean the difference between life and death for the fish.

Assuming the parameters of the replacement water are roughly the same as the waste water, the water change will have no negative effect on the fish, and this will be the case in the majority of circumstances.

You are correct that large swings in parameters, even for the better, can be detrimental to fish health, but many people underestimate their fish's resiliance. The shock of a slight change in temperature or nitrate level will almost always be far out-weighed by the benefit of the large water change (removing ammonia and nitrite).

I'd like to hear your side of the discussion as you seem to hold unfortunately popular views which contribute to the demise of millions of aquarium fish each year through ammonia and nitrite poisoning because the fishkeeper has been ill-informed that large water changes are somehow worse for the fish than being poisoned.

There are exceptions where large water changes are not adviseable, but this usually applies to mature tanks which have gone without maintenance for a long time, not new set-ups as is the case here.

It is essential to stress the importance of keeping pH, hardness and temperature relatively stable during water changes, but this can usually be done with relative ease. I would suggest that to advise no more than 50% should be changed at any time is, as Miss Wiggle says, old-style fishkeeping and holds no weight in today's hobby.

Bblou, i advise you to perform a 75% water change to bring down the nitrite to a manageable level and then continue to perform as many (and as large) water changes as required to keep both levels below 0.25 at all times. Media donation will definitely help as long as you can detect ammonia or nitrite in the water. I'll be pleased to explain it further for you, if you like. Good luck!

Cheers :good:

BTT
 
I dont think any water change is going to reduce my nitrite because the tap levels are higher than my tank levels at the moment lol.



anyhow, I came on to say...

what on earth is going on?!?!

I set up my second tank. swapped around one sponge in each filter.. so one with media and one without in each tank.

levels b4 doing this...

20g
pH8
am 0 -.25
Nrite .5 - 1
Nrate 20

5g
ph8
am .25
Nrite 1
Nrate 20

levels 1 hour AFTER swapping an entire sponge from each filter... ph i forgot to use the high ph kit but it looked paler.

20g
Am 0
Nrite .75
Nrate 40

5g
Am 0
Nrite 0
Nrate 10

I tested each tank twice!

I thought i was starting to understand...

but now I am COMPLETELY baffled!!!

I guess I shall just have to keep testing every day, twice if poss. I assume that it will start creeping up over the next few days

EDIT.

The ONLY thing I can think of to explain this, and many of you will probably think that I am NUTS, is that I sent every fish, every plant and every other living organism in my tanks healing (Reiki) for about half an hour.

So I can explain the unexplainable with the misunderstood.

but logically... i am lost!

EDIT 2.

I just thought of a way to test this bizarre theory. if someone with higher than preferred levels can send me a pic of their tank, I could send reiki to theres and see if it makes a difference.

haha!

I think I have lost it :D
 
lol, i think you have lost it!

well i think the sudden drop in levels is more a coincidence than a consequence of moving the media around.

whatever the reason the levels are looking better so that's good however you cut the mustard! Keep monitoring it and hopefully it'll continue to fall on this trend.
 
The quick drop in levels in the 5g can easily be explained. Sufficient bacteria was moved from the main tank to the small one, with the lump of sponge moved across. The drop in nitrate can be explained by test kit error. Nitrate test kits at low (under 50) levels are notoriously inaccurate. Nitrate kits should be used more as a guide than a "law".

Levels in the second tank is harder to explain... Mebe Reiki did help... Whether it did or diden't I'm still completely confused about that one myself, but obviously between the tests you have done something right, so lets hope things continue to look up :good:

All the best
Rabbut
 
I did another test on each tank this morning and nitrite and ammonia were up a little but now theyre back down to what they were last night.

Bazil also seems happier today in his 5g but i need some ideas to cover up the mirror backing as hes flaring at himself now.

In the 20g, ive noticed to tetra with a bit of dorsal missing, so I have been watching the tank... a lot!! (my boyfriend doesnt like it lol) the gouramis dont go near the tetra... so i kinda dont think it is them even though I know its more likely to be them. or think it is anyway. I do have one rather boisterous tetra that doesnt shoal with the others... like hes been shunned outta the clique hehe, he chases the other tetra... could he be nipping them? hes also going at the gourami.

Oh and today we got a red winged parrot :D

the boyfriend said when i ignore him to do fish, he is going to ignore me to do parrot lol

erm... just realised how warped that last sentence sounds! oops
 

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