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We are dog daft and currently have 4 bitches.

Different dogs for different people for me i think its close to impossible to recommend anything as all are special in their own way. For us its little dogs. Lap dogs that are as happy to watch TV run around in the garden or out for a stroll down the park or beach ;-)

Forever friends, one of ours had a birth defect and at a little over a year old we had a big decission. Give her the life changing operation or send her to sleep. The life changing operation (7years ago) has served her well but at the time was not affordable. But things like that just have to happen ;-) We feel great giving her the life she deserves.

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Beau (Black) a thirteen year old Pug-Cavilier King Charles.
The grey with dark patches and black face is eight year old Porcsha also a cross, Pekingese-Bichion Frise she was the lucky one that got the life changing operation.
Also in first picture is two year old Dasiy the black and white Shih Tzu the kindest most gentle dog i have ever came across.


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And our latest addition is 16week old Ruby also a Shih Tzu but brown and white. She will not be soft and gentle like Daisy i think she will be more like Gizmo the gremlin or Satan in the form of a ball of fluff

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Good luck finding your next furry friend. ;-)
 

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Poodles are great dogs. I fell in love with them as a groomer. They are very smart, come in a verity of sizes, and have versatile coats. Poodles are not prone to things like shave shock, so you can keep their coats short or long. They can be wary of strangers, and very loving towards friends and family. My friend has a blue standard poodle that comes and leans into me and asks for pets when I visit. I love that dog.
 
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Poodles are great dogs. I fell in love with them as a groomer. They are very smart, come in a verity of sizes, and have versatile coats. You can keep their coat short or long without risk of damaging their skin or hair. They can be wary of strangers, and very loving towards friends and family. My friend has a blue standard poodle that comes and leans into me when I sit down. I love that dog.
An interesting thing about poodle grooming... The practice of having groomed to where most of the fur is shour except for around the joints is due to their being also water retrievers. The heavier fur around the joints is for insulation against cold water while most of their fur being close groomed is to avoid resistance while in water. At least that is what I've read...
 

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Just a thought as an alternative doggy....

A retired Greyhound. They are absolutely wonderful dogs...true couch potatoes, extremely loyal and fun to be around. There are rescue organisations who specifically handle Greyhounds, they make brilliant pets, even those who have raced in the past are all about the cuddles and a slow lane life.





There are some awesome Greyhounds looking for new forever homes
 

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Lots for you to think about! You probably already know I'm dog mad, have a deal of experience with my own family dogs, walking and training dogs for others, and @Rocky998 can vouch that I'm pretty good at looking at a mutt and picking out what breed mixes are likely in there! So once you're at the point of looking at pictures of dogs, I'm more than happy to take a look and see which breeds I think are likely dominating - and others here like @Alice B are good at this too, so making a thread with photos of the dog(s) you have in mind could give you a good idea of the things you might expect from the specific dog you get.

You're right that while purebreed show snobbery sucks in so many ways I won't go into now - breed does give you a good indicator of both what the dog will need from you, and whether it would suit you and the lifestyle you have planned for you and the dog. Breed traits are just traits, not certainties, but since we bred and shaped these dogs for specific purposes, we didn't just breed for shape, coat and colour, but elements like temperament, drive, heightened or shortened hunting sequences etc. So it's wise to browse some breed profiles and see what you really do, but importantly, really don't, want.

Most dogs in the size range you're wanting could clear a 3-4 ft easily. Some breeds are more prone to escaping too... huskies, malamutes and collies can clear a six foot fence, and if you get a hound type with a high prey drive, a rabbit or deer they want on the other side of that fence means they'll be gone. Go larger if you can, or look into dog safe fencing that curls inwards at the top. How much of an escape artist the dog may be is hard to predict. My Springer/Collie could easily clear the fencing in our garden when she was younger, if she'd wanted to, but I'd worked on her recall and respecting the boundaries since she was a pup (nothing negative, just calling her back to me and rewarding when she came) so she's never tried to escape the garden, or roam too far from me. Never had problems with the Jack Russell, Springer/Cocker, or black lab/whippet either.

It's easiest to build a strong recall when it's a pup that is still in that puppy elastic stage, where they don't want to be too far from you anyway, but can still do it with an older dog. But some breeds have a much stronger prey-drive, or are bred to work independently, and so can go selectively deaf, and are much more likely to hare away chasing something. Sighthounds and scenthounds, most often.

Rather than a specific breed, think about the groups that the dog belongs too. What sort of work it was bred to do. This helps with training too. The way to motivate and what activities to do are completely different with my Springer/Collie than my friend's retired greyhound. When you know what drives the dog is likely to have due to it's breed mixes, you can harness those drives both to make training for what you want easier, and to enhance the dos life. If you adopted a rescue beagle, then learning how to do simple scent-work will both make the dog very happy, and tire them out. For any dog, mental exercise is just as important (and tiring!) as physical exercise, so you need a balance of both.

I'm biased towards the gundog group, which your goldie belonged to. Avoid labs since you don't get on well with the oils - I think that should probably rule out staffies and other bully breeds, rotties and dobermans, since they tend to get that oiliness too, as do shepherds sometimes, although less so with the shepherds if the coat is maintained well. They shed like the devil too though.

The duck tolling retriever might suit you very well- you should definitely read up more on them! I'm jealous, I'd love one of them.

But also consider the spaniels and setters, maybe pointers too. Something like a German Short-haired pointer might set off your oily coat reaction, but the wire-haired would be better.

The good thing about gundogs is that they're active and fun, but also biddable and tend towards being very trainable, sensitive to working closely with their human, so they watch you for direction usually. Their prey-drive tends to be less than in many other breeds because they've been bred to flush game for the gun, not kill it themselves, and soft-mouthed to hold it gently when fetching it so they don't damage and ruin the game. This makes them pretty great family dogs and around small kids.

Downside to setters/pointers/spaniels is higher grooming needs, but trimming the feathering and stripping any loose undercoat every three months or so keeps it much more under control and makes the daily/every other day grooming a pretty simple brush over to remove dead coat. They do shed, but it's not as bad as with a goldie/lab/shepherd.

Energy levels for the above can be a downside, and also something that can vary a lot (especially show lines vs working lines). It depends on age/breed/what you do with them. Springers for example are very bouncy and keen to go out and do something, so if someone is occupied with a young family and only able to walk the dog once a week, they'll soon struggle with a bored and unhappy dog that might well be destructive, even if only from bouncing off the furniture. But in your case since you have a good amount of space, if the dog gets out on a walk twice a day, has some tennis boys and toys to play with, and you spend some time with it every day, maybe teaching some basic obedience or trick training (short five minute training sessions are best) then you'll have a very happy gundog.

While letting dogs out to run around on land is exercise, I don't count this as a walk. Walking with their human is very different, much more rewarding, and I play games and train as I walk them. It breaks up any boredom, and keeps the dog excited since they're not sure what's coming next, but they know it'll be fun

Herding breeds might work well for you too.

Lastly, don't rule out smaller dogs! Terriers have bags of personality, and especially some of the working ones have the heart of a lion. Brave as all heck. Jack Russells, cairn, norfolk, patterdale - and one of my favourites, check out Border Terriers. They look like grumpy little old men, but every one I've ever met has been the sweetest, most easy going little companion that will walk with your for hours, then curl up on your lap or at your feet and snooze away the day while you read or watch TV. Great little dogs, and far from a toy breed.
 
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I know how atypical my dog was, with her upbringing and spending 5 years locked indoors alone. She was a golden retainer, on the rare occasions she chased a ball. She never retrieved. I was able to train her to walk off leash beside me and not cross into the yard next door, even with no fence. She occasionally told the backyard deer herd off, but never chased. There is an evergreen tree out back. If a deer came to the house side of it, she would walk over and bark. If it stayed to the field side, even if she was 20 feet to the house side, she left them in peace. It was all very civilized.

She chased squirrels when we first got her, but then she caught one, let it go unharmed and never even barked at one afterwards.

I had to teach her how to jump over tree trunks in the woods. She went around all obstacles. She could run like crazy even to the last day, so it came out of her previous world.

She never came when called - I don't think she knew her name when we got her. She was 'kennel breeder feral' in many aspects. She was smart, and learned when we were talking about her quickly, but the idea she should come when called just seemed foolish to her. She was always tuned in, but not necessarily impressed by our words.

I am certainly not going to find a dog that strange again. I would never wish the treatment that made her that way on any dog - her natural instincts were crushed. Whatever type I end up with, I am going to be in for some shocks. It's going to know how to 'dog'.

I figure one or two walks a day, plus yard time. So exercise should be good. Off to read more about those little terriers. Not sure about small dogs, but an open mind is good.
 

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I lost my last dog nine months ago today. No more dogs. They live just long enough to burrow into your heart and then die . If I got another dog it would outlive me at this point in my life. I won’t make a dog go through that.
 

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I lost my last dog nine months ago today. No more dogs. They live just long enough to burrow into your heart and then die . If I got another dog it would outlive me at this point in my life. I won’t make a dog go through that.
 

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