Crossbreeding That I Don't Want

[hotdogoramer]

i have 4 pairs of endler's livebearers and i have them in a tank with a bunch of guppies. i was wondering will the male guppies try to mate with the female endler's?? i dont want it to happen, is it preventable??

 

[neilmcq]

i have 4 pairs of endler's livebearers and i have them in a tank with a bunch of guppies. i was wondering will the male guppies try to mate with the female endler's?? i dont want it to happen, is it preventable??

yeah they both come from the same family... u can bet ur socks the guppies will have a go if they get the chance sorry bud but the only way is to have the endlers seperate.

 

[fifefish]

you could always cull the fry if they do crossbreed.

 

[hotdogoramer]

oh damn that sucks, i just don't have space for another tank.
i have another question, how big do endler's grow the males and females?

 

[pippoodle]

if you have had them in the tank together for any amount of time the chances are they have already crossbred
they will breed as soon as a viable female is there
females also store sperm so for the next 6 months you could still be having hybrids even if you seperate them now

 

[helterskelter]

These fish will cross easily.

Resulting in a mixed bag of offspring, and you can t do anything now.

Even in you remove the endlers to a different tank the females could easily produce guppy crosses for 6 more months as they can store sperm to that long.

 

[hotdogoramer]

can someone tell me how big my Endler's will get.
I dont have space for another tank so i put in a seperater, i havent put them in together yet thats why i asked the question. i m new to endler's and got my 4 pairs yesterday. so i hope you wont mind my crazy questions.

How big is an adult female and male endler?

i will add some pictures later.

 

[hotdogoramer]

here are some pics, they move around a lot so i hope you don't mind the bad quality. i will try to get better ones.

here are the females

 

[hotdogoramer]

here are more pics

 

[OldMan47]

You have some guppies in your pictures Hotdogoramer. I hope nobody kidded you into thinking they were all endlers. An endler female has absolutely no color in her tail and an endler male never has a long flowing dorsal and tail like the fish in the second picture of a group. Some of the other fish do look like endlers. An adult endler at full growth will be about 3/4 the size of a guppy of the same sex. For a male that is about an inch or a little more and for a female maybe an inch and a quarter to an inch and a half.
BTW my avatar on this forum is a pure endler.

 

[neilmcq]

here are more pics

on this pic it looks like uve a pair of male endlers...cant tell how pure cos they are out of focus a little,a pair of guppies at the front and a white cloud mountain minnow on the upper left looking at the size of them just now i wouldnt expect the endlers to grow much more to be honest

 

[hotdogoramer]

Thanks for the info Oldman and neilmcq and i only got the pure endlers, those guppies are mine and home bred. like i said before i didn't want to mix the females so i only let the males mix right after i got them. the females are the sperate four ones in the tank. the little endlers move around too much thats why my pictures are blurry. i still don't want them to crossbreed but i dont have space for another tank and when i divided the tank the space was too small so i let them all mix. i wish i could prevent them from crossbreeding but i don't know how, other then a separate tank.

 

[OldMan47]

You may get some interesting crosses from what you have done. There are people like Adrian Hernandez that are making a decent living by developing endler / guppy hybrids that breed true. At a recent club auction I was astounded by the price that some hybrids called tiger endlers were demanding compared to show quality guppies and wild type endlers.

 

[hotdogoramer]

You may get some interesting crosses from what you have done. There are people like Adrian Hernandez that are making a decent living by developing endler / guppy hybrids that breed true. At a recent club auction I was astounded by the price that some hybrids called tiger endlers were demanding compared to show quality guppies and wild type endlers.

Oldman your thinking on the bright side and i never thought of it but you're right. I would like to see the mix, but all my guppies have the same look that i don't really like, except for the red one in the pics. These are my first Endlers thats why i wanted pure ones, and then hybrids later. i ordered these fish in my LFS but it took them 3 months to get, so i really want them to breed pure endlers so i can have a stock i can actually experiment with, to see the outcomes.

 

[helterskelter]

Well good luck with them.

They look to be a bottom sword of some type u have, sadly 99% sold in shops are already a guppy cross, how ever they do look nice.
Finding true endlers are difficualt but if it took them 3 months then they may of as shop stuff are very common (ie blackbar crosses)