Crabs Or Frogs In My Tank

[matt77303]

Hi

I have a 180 litre tank with a good mix of fish, currently I have some tetras, gouramis, plattys, and 4 fighting fish, 1 male and 3 females. And a couple of small clown loaches.

My lfs has got some albino dwarf frogs in and some small red clawed crabs. Will these mix ok with what I've got akready? Just looking for somthing a bit different in my tank. Do they need to be able to get out the water to the air at all? I currently feed pellet and bloodworm, do they have any extra dietary requirements? Or will they food be ok?

My lfs are less than helpfull so I thought I would ask on here first.

Thanks

Matt

 

[Andy_G]

Hey, the frogs will be 'african clawed frogs' if they're albino, and unfortunately they'll eat your fish.

Andy

 

[ZoddyZod]

the red claws will need access to land, where they spend the majority of their time. If you try and keep them fish then you WILL have fish disappear.

 

[matt77303]

Hey, the frogs will be 'african clawed frogs' if they're albino, and unfortunately they'll eat your fish.

Andy

Thanks mate,

And the crabs? They do the same?

Matt

the red claws will need access to land, where they spend the majority of their time. If you try and keep them fish then you WILL have fish disappear.

Ok. Thanks mate.

Shame.

Matt

 

[anwhyte]

i agree with zz, the crabs will try very hard to get out of the water and are great climbers & escape artists.

 

[Andy_G]

no prob, i'm not sure about the crabs. I learnt from experience, we kept clawed frogs before with fish, we weren't sure how they were disappearing until we saw a tail sticking out of the frogs mouth one morning. They're a pretty big undertaking too, my parents have one who's at least 15 years old. I've heard they can live till they're 25.

 

[matt77303]

no prob, i'm not sure about the crabs. I learnt from experience, we kept clawed frogs before with fish, we weren't sure how they were disappearing until we saw a tail sticking out of the frogs mouth one morning. They're a pretty big undertaking too, my parents have one who's at least 15 years old. I've heard they can live till they're 25.

I'll give them a miss then. .

I just like summit a bit different, I put some shrimps in last night, but can't see them this morning. Not sure if there are hiding or whether the loaches got them?

Matt

 

[ZoddyZod]

I just like summit a bit different, I put some shrimps in last night, but can't see them this morning. Not sure if there are hiding or whether the loaches got them?

Matt

many of us have gone down the crab route before learning that they really aren't recommended for community tanks.

Considering the clown loaches, I think any shrimp are a no go in the tank I'm afraid.

 

[Uriel]

Sorry to go off topic a bit but be careful. Male fighters can harrass and kill female fighters when they get in the mood for breeding and it's generally not reccomended to keep them together. Also your clown loaches will get big eventually and will need a very big tank.

 

[matt77303]

Sorry to go off topic a bit but be careful. Male fighters can harrass and kill female fighters when they get in the mood for breeding and it's generally not reccomended to keep them together. Also your clown loaches will get big eventually and will need a very big tank.

Yeah my lfs didn't tell be how big they would grow. When I got them they were about 1" now they are about 6", I'll be sad to let then go as they have survived one marriage breakup and 3 house moves, I would miss them!

I suppose they will have to go eventually but I dont no anybody with a tank big enough.

Matt.

 

[Jenste]

you should get rid of the clowns while they are small for their best interest - - it is easier to rehome young/small fish than adult/large fish

also keeping them in a tank that is too small will stunt their growth and impede their health


in the future if you decide to set up a separate frog tank, I will be more than happy to help you

 

[matt77303]

you should get rid of the clowns while they are small for their best interest - - it is easier to rehome young/small fish than adult/large fish

also keeping them in a tank that is too small will stunt their growth and impede their health


in the future if you decide to set up a separate frog tank, I will be more than happy to help you

Thanks mate, I have a Spare 12litre nano type tank, would that be suitable? Or to small?

If not I have a 100 quid voucher for my lfs that I could use on a new tank.

Matt

 

[Andy_G]

Hi matt, the nano would be too small, ACF's grow really quickly, and like a lot of room to swim around. Aquaticfrogs.tripod.com is a good site to get some info from, it recommends a 20G / 75L long tank for up to 3 frogs, but i'm sure Jenste will be along to help you shortly, she's the ACF expert round here.

Andy

 

[Jenste]

If you go under my info you will see a link for my personal acf website...

The tripod site has sadly been abandoned and could use sone updating....

I am responding via phone so this response will be short but if u have any questions just let me know....ACF are amazing to keep

 

[annaw123]

i've got an african clawed frog, and im sad to say he DID enjoy some of my fish! be very careful, you may think that your fish are too large, but trust me they'll manage! so just be careful with that and also, i've heard that mixing frogs and crabs isnt a good idea, as they both mainly stay at the bottom of the tank, and if they come into contact with eachother there may be a bit of a bust up!
so be careful