Cloning A Tank

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hi all

i have never needed to clone a tank before, but i am planning on doing so in the not too distant future, so i need abit of advice.

If i were to take a fully mature filter from one tank, and transfer it to a new and uncycled tank. is this cloning? and will it work?

The filter is currently running on a 4ft goldfish tank, but i am moving those to the pond, and using the filter in a different tank.

Thanks In Advance
 
hi all

i have never needed to clone a tank before, but i am planning on doing so in the not too distant future, so i need abit of advice.

If i were to take a fully mature filter from one tank, and transfer it to a new and uncycled tank. is this cloning? and will it work?

The filter is currently running on a 4ft goldfish tank, but i am moving those to the pond, and using the filter in a different tank.

Thanks In Advance

No I don't think you will find that is cloning.

Remember, it's the filter that's cycled NOT the tank. If the filter is 100% cycled and you move it to a new tank then as long as you don't increase the bioload then it's good to go. (ie it will immediately cope with as many fish as was in the old tank.) Just remember that although the filter is still cycled the new tank is not 'mature' which is something to consider when choosing the new stock
Cloning is where you take some off the old media from the cycled filter and place in in or near a new filter and the bacteria sets up in the new media.
 
ok well,

the tank i will be moving the filter to will contain a single axolotl. so it will be less bio load.

will it work if i add the current filter and tank water alongside?

Cheers
 
hi,iam planing on doing this i have a internal filter running along side my external as i was planing on setting another tank for a discus pair the internal been on for two weeks,my plans are to take half my water out my large main tank its been running nearly 2 years no deaths water changes every 2 3 days nipping clean,water,so will see what happens,hey guys would you think two weeks is long enough for the bacteria to have built up in my internal?or would another week or 2 be in order before i put it in the new tank?,,thanks,,kenny,,3ndl3r.hope we can both get help on the clone thing :good:
 
ok well,

the tank i will be moving the filter to will contain a single axolotl. so it will be less bio load.

will it work if i add the current filter and tank water alongside?

Cheers


Like I said if the filter is cycled and put in a new tank then you can (and should) add fish immediately or certainly within 24 hours. The old water is of no benifit but any rocks etc would be.
 
Ok cheers buddy, i would be adding the axolotl straight across, along with the substrate and al the other decor.
 
If i were to take a fully mature filter from one tank, and transfer it to a new and uncycled tank. is this cloning?

Yes, it is cloning. Once you add it to another tank, it's completely able to remove the same amount of waste from fish in the second tank as it did in the first one. The word "cloning" is usually used to mean taking part of the filter media from one tank and starting up another. In that case, half the media would support half the amount of fish, etc.

For example, last week I came home from the lfs with four fish I had not expected to buy, and needed to set up a quarantine tank for them immediately. Since I use box filters, it was easy enough to pinch a bit of filter floss from the filters in several different tanks I have running, and replace it with new floss. The beneficial bacteria will soon reproduce and rebuild its numbers in the old filters, and the bacteria I moved to the new filter will continue doing its job in the tank I just set up. The new tank is a cloned tank.

Dorsey mentioned "maturity," which is something else again. Some of the more delicate fish have additional requirements that go along with a longer running tank, but others do not. Otos, for example, should only be added to a tank that has growing plants and algae.

Almost all beneficial bacteria will be found clinging to the surfaces of the tank. Most are in the filter media, and some are in the first 1/2" to 1" of gravel, where there is more water circulation than the deeper gravel gets. Some will be found on the glass, decorations and plants too, but very little is free floating in the water. When you set up a second filter, once some get into it, they will begin to reproduce and the eventually the total number will be divided between the two filters. How long it takes is probably dependent on the rate of water flow, etc.

As dorsey also mentioned, it is very important to add more fish to a new tank with live bacteria in it to keep the bacteria from starving and dying off.

I like to fill a new tank 1/4 to 1/3 of the way with water from another tank. It seems to keep the formation of bubbles to a minimum and generally get things off to a good start, but this has nothing to do with the beneficial bacteria.
 

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