can anyone identify these for me pls

[-*-MicHAeL-*-]

its definetly a chiclid

 

[BigC]

They are definately chiclids for a start, possibly Jewels but it is extreamly hard to tell from your photos. Try the link below and see if we're on the right track.
http/www.aquahobby.com/gallery/gjewel.html

 

[reg2k2]

Both red, females more so. But I'd wait until they're settled in a bit before drawing conclusions. Not sure about this being a communtiy fish (nothing small, anyway), def. not when breeding.

If you get no more replies, give the African section a try.
And I'm sure better pic's, if possible, would be helpful.

 

[orientmatt]

they dont seem to be too disruptive and are keeping them selves to themselves, so im not worrying at the mo. the dicription on the article sounds like my fish, but the picture seems to be more reddish than mine.

also been looking at other articles of jewel cichlids, but mine dont have a dark spot on their side, only a shiny silvery/green one under their eye. Could this be due to age and a second one will develop later, or does this mean they are something else.

 

[orientmatt]

p.s. will also try for better pics. thanks anyway

 

[orientmatt]

right, i have some more pictures (at last after great difficulty ). dont know if there gonna help much more but anyway...

http/i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/orientmatt/newfish.bmp

http/i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/orie...tt/newfish2.bmp

http/i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/orie...tt/newfish3.bmp

 

[Lynz781]

Are they dyed?

 

[orientmatt]

dyed as in changed colour- i wouldnt have the foggiest.

 

[BigC]

Possibly Hemichromis Bimaculatus or a Hemichromis species
http/www.wiljo.nu/images/fisksidae/hemic...imaculatus5.htm
or
http/akwafoto.aip.pl/fotoreport/torun200...chromis_sp1.jpg
or
http/akwafoto.aip.pl/fotoreport/torun200..._pielegnice.php
scroll down to see if the Hemichromis sp. resemble yours.

 

[Lynz781]

Dyed as in injected with colour.

 

[orientmatt]

WOW that is exactly it! Thanks. i presume that a hemichromis is a cichlid then. What does this mean in terms of my tank and other fish.

At the moment i have a 3ft tank ( it think its 33 US gallons) with:
2 angels
3 Red Tailed Black Sharks
1 pleco(v.big)
7 Columbian Tetras
2 other tetras(unknown)
2 swordtails (hybrid of swordtail and platy)
and three of these hemichromis things

 

[Torrean]

What kiind of pleco do you have? some grow to 20"
Red tailed black sharks should be kept alone or in very large tanks I think can be kept in groups of 4+

 

[reg2k2]

I agree...nice find on the pic's.

Hemochromis bimaculatus (common jewel) was the first pic linked. I believe H. sp. would mean it's unidentified, but belongs to the same family...more than likely, care would be the same.

 

[BigC]

At breeding time, presuming you have a sexed pair, could prove a problem as these can be quite boisterious. What size are the tetras, they too could be at risk, everything else seems fine.

 

[orientmatt]

after googling it, and finding this site, http/www.sydneycichlid.com/gallery/wa_ci...hromisguttatus1
, I presume the hemichromis cichlid is from West Africa, although mine is not the bimaculatus one as the pictures for those are different.

If mine is unidentified, could this mean it has been 'changed' through captive breeeding and is not actually found in the wild?