BIG problem with Ammonia

Not so long ago I had PERFECT water in all my tanks, zero's on everything and PH was right at 7 -it was all wonderful. Then I got very sick for two weeks and was unable to do weekly water changes. As I recovered I tested the waters and found that EVERY tank had a huge ammonia increase. Started dosing with prime as directed to make the ammonia less harmful but, of course, that doesn't change the readings when you are testing. I have no nitrites and low or no nitrates - just ammonia readings of 1.0 ppm or higher on all three tanks. Ph is running between 7 and 7.4. Seachem also recommended using Stability daily which I add mixed with a quart of tank water.

I have done 3- -70% water changes on my two bigger tanks - every other day. I've done 4 huge water changes on my small tank (in fact I killed a fish during a huge water change because the left over debris in the tank clogged his little gills) Lessoned learned about the cost of overfeeding.

I'm disabled so this is a struggle for me but I'm determined to keep it up. But what is most frustrating is that the Ammonia Readings STILL have not changed - what HAS changed is that I added several new fish ( they had been on order before this mess started) - so I did add to the load on the two larger tanks - but the Ammonia didn't go up and it didn't go down - it just remained the same. Out of desperation I purchased AmGuard to supposedly remove the ammonia. Contacted Seachem first to get recommended quantities to add (the bottle dosing is based on 100 gallon tanks). They recommended a few DROPS which I mixed with a quart of tank water before adding it back in. Ammonia unchanged.

Since then I have lost two fish - one a beloved CoryCat and the other an adorable Orange Gourami. These appear to have been dead a few days - so I don't think the AmGuard did them in. The Corycat had appeared slow and lethargic for weeks so I think the stress of the ammonia was just too much - but gills look perfect. No idea what happened with the Orange Gorami - gills didn't even appear the least bit irritated and no injuries just a perfect looking dead fish. Now one more is missing (this is a very heavily planted tank so it can take quite a while to locate a dead fish. No fish are missing from my other tanks.

I have two bristle nosed yellow plecos I haven't seen in days but that's not unusual for them - they hide VERY well and come out at night to eat. Besides being hard to get - they were expensive, so I dread losing these two - they are also so adorable just so small I need a magnifying glass to see them properly (they will eventually grow to 4".

So any clues on what is keeping my Ammonia so high? I tested our tap water to see if the City had changed anything but got the usual high PH, moderate hardness and NO ammonia. My tanks do not appear overloaded, most of the time you barely notice there are more than 3 fish in there. I need a solution before all these water changes kill me. HELP!

 

I regularly do a small or large water change weekly because I know I have a bad habit of overfeeding them sometimes. The one I really don't understand is the small tank - if you look at this tank it is spotless after 4 cleanings. I am getting a pump and stone to get more air in that tank - but after that many water changes this makes NO sense. I was well enough to do the feedings and I while I wasn't well enough to do a water change - I would suction out the food when I over-fed them. One of the larger tanks is not missing any fish so - nothing dead and the water looks crystal clear but I am fighting too many snails. The other larger tank has cloudy water since the last water change and the feeding that occurred after that - I had just added the 3 new fish and found 2 that died. One more is missing. Of the 3 tanks it has the LOWEST level of ammonia at exactly 1 ppm.

I cleaned the filter on one of the larger tanks but kept all the media - the filter was clogged with plant matter. The filter on the other big tank looks cheap to me but it came with the tank - it's a copy of a mainland filter, so no brand name is listed - seems to do well. Both the large tanks have aerating stones.

The filter on the 3rd small tank barely shoves out any water but it came with the tank. I know there was too much food in it because I killed a fish when some of the accumulated food got in his gills during a large water change - now it looks sparkling clean. I can try withholding food but if the cory's dig up any they will be attacked by the larger gouramis so I really hate stopping the feedings but will try. (this will be painful).

Thanks for the ideas - Jan

 

I retested all my tanks and the ammonia in the small tank (after 5 water changes and cutting back on feedings) is now at 4ppm. One of my bigger tanks is 2 ppm while the messiest looking tank (with prior dead fish) is staying at 1 ppm. Does this make any sense?

Did another water change today - this is getting exhausting. I added an air pump and stone to the little tank to improve O2 levels. For my tank with the AquaClear filter I bought media specifically designed to remove ammonia. I am dosing them all with small amounts (after contacting Seachem for the quantity) of AmmGuard - which can be a bit tricky to use - you don't want to overdose. All fish have survived it for 2 days in a row. I'm feeding one meal a day and about 1/2 the quantity - the problem is the sinking pellets - my big fish can just swallow the pellets whole, but the Cory's and smaller Gourami's may take an hour or two of constant munching to eat them - there is never anything left after that - they LOVE these things. Interestingly the tank that looks the worst, has cloudy water and too much plant and other debris also has the lowest Ammonia and nitrogen levels. NONE of this makes any sense. I'm no longer overfeeding, the water has been switched 4 times in the last week. I am not overstocked in any tank.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by an "air operated sponge filter" I have added extra media to all the cheapo filters (thin sections of sponge) because I can't change the filter it came with without loosing my bacteria (stupid design). When I did this last water change I checked all filters for debris clogging them and found my HAIR wrapped around the propeller thing (can't think at the moment) of the AquaClear and had a hell of a time unwinding it plus I cleaned the tubing and casing well and added the ammonia reducing media (which meant the charcoal filter had to go) - the flow on the filters of the bigger tanks has always been very good (even with my hair in it) but the little tank just doesn't put out much water so I suspect I will be getting a better filter for it - it was originally only meant to be a quarantine or hospital tank - I never intended to keep fish in it regularly.

It's just psycho -Ammonia cannot recreate itself and the fish aren't pooping significantly more as far as I can tell. Yet I'm losing the battle. I'm actually shocked I have not had more dead fish. I even had to buy a new API test kit because I ran out of test drops in several bottles. The new test kit made no difference - same crazy high readings.

Oh I located my "lost" fish - the "blue eyed bushynose lemon colored pleco" they are nocturnal, very shy and very good at hiding - big relief. One of my lost Cory's also finally showed up to eat - thought for sure he was dead.

I don't think there is anything more I can do other than continue to cut way back on feeding and continue the water changes - Nitrites are also becoming slightly higher in all the tanks which usually corresponds to a reduction in ammonia (if the tanks are all in cycle mode again) Nitrates are at a very low level - zero to 5.

I am getting some serious arm muscles hauling this water around (I use a gravel cleaner/water remover poured into a bucket rather than my python because the python was putting the fish (they'd get sucked in) at too much risk and removing water faster than I could get rid of the debris. Not to mention handling a 50 ft long hose that kept causing my sink to back up because I had to run water full blast to keep the suction going. Cleaned up SO many water messes on my hardwood floors - and getting the water out of the hose when you're done is a 50 ft of pain in the neck. Not to mention my O2 cord getting tangled with the 50 ft hose. Hauling buckets of water isn't a lot of fun either but at least I have far better control of the waste removal and I know exactly how much water I removed.

I think I'm doing the very best job I can and just keep hoping with time this will work itself out. Everybody's help has been MUCH appreciated.

 

Heck I thought it was going to be the perfect hobby for me. I'm disabled and am on Oxygen 24/7 - I rarely leave the house. I have allowed myself to "be sick" and therefore weak and helpless. The pet love of my life (Delilah- the Basset Hound) died of cancer, followed by my dear father dying. My husband died 1 1/2 yrs ago of a brain hemmorage. I've always thought this was a "guy" hobby because there can be so much equipment to assemble but overall that part has mostly been quite easy. Like nearly every other new fish keeper I overfeed - plus that "mom" thing comes out and I can't stand skinny pets. I am TRYING because I do believe that is was the cause of my ammonia levels.

This new hobby has really brought me out of my depression.

As far as water cycling - this whole mess has felt just like that - so I keep waiting for nitrites to rise. They have risen in one aquarium but the ammonia has stayed just as high

I use a hose with a siphon device that sifts through the gravel (but is too small to let a fish get inside the hose - common problem with the Python - curious fish I guess. It doesn't suction debris as well but water goes into a bucket and when I've removed about 70% of the water I refill it with prime treated fresh water. I can manage about 2 1/2 gallons per trip, but I'm getting stronger.


BUT THERE MAY BE AN END IN SIGHT - I'm finally getting a reduction of ammonia. In all three tanks:
Tank A: Ammonia originally 2.0 - multiple water changes, great snail clean up of hundreds of dead and alive snails. Used filter media in my AquaClear filter that supposedly removes ammonia. Add 1 ml of AmGuard for two days so far - Ammonia today: 1.0. 4 water changes this week.

Tank B: Ammonia originally 1.0 , water VERY cloudy and a lot of debris. Running the filter faster and added 1 ml of AmGuard for 2 days. 4 water changes this week. Ammonia today: .25 Water sill cloudy but improved. Found only 2 snails.

Tank C: (5 gal): Ammonia originally 4.0. Filter runs slow (I've ordered a better one), running current one faster and added an air stone which the fish enjoy/ Added .5 mls of AmGuard for two days. 5 water changes this week. Current ammonia level: 2.0 Nitrites .5 (all other tanks remain zero for Nitrites and Nitrates PH's all range from 6.8 to 7.4).

So huge progress as far as I'm concerned. I'll continue to work on it (two tired for water change tonight) and add AmGuard. None of the other filters will hold that media bag made by AquaPure but I might buy one and split it into two filter bags and add to tanks B and C.

Again - thanks for all your help.

 

I seriously thought about it and read up on it but it seems that "Stability" by Seachem does just that and I've been using it regularly - but there are packets of bacteria that you can add to the water - it just makes me nervous to mess too much with the chemistry any more - since ammonia levels are slowly coming down - and I've cut way back on feedings (my favorite fish no longer "dances" any more when she sees me since I no longer always bring food LOL-but it's for her own good). So I'm just so thrilled what I've done so far is working so well. I've also ordered some floss/pillow fluff type of material that you can stuff into a media bag and it supposedly works wonders for clearing up the water (one of the tanks is still milky) and for removing ammonia. I figure it will not do any harm - while pouring in all these chemicals are more likely to cause problems.

Ordered from Amazon - should be here in a day or two - of course the dang bags may take longer to arrive - figures.

 

I have a ton of plants - I do a head count everyday and that is getting more and more difficult to find my shy fish especially. The marimo balls get eaten - I have two algae eater fish per tank. I still have some small pieces of them left, but they look more like grass now than a ball. Thanks though.

 

I don't know anybody besides myself that keeps aquariums. One of the local pet stores sells it per gallon but you have to figure out a way to transport it (he recommends multiple 5 gallon buckets with lids. Problem is I can't lift more than 2 1/2 gallons at a time - with my disabilities its just too difficult. Don't exactly live in the friendliest of neighborhoods. The only man in my life is my step-son but he gets abnormal heart rhythms if he exerts himself too much (I don't think he's up to carrying that many buckets). Plus this would only make sense if there was Ammonia in my tap water - which there isn't - so as long as I start with ammonia free water it shouldn't make a difference.

My little tank went from 4 ppm to .25 - then was back up to 2ppm today. To me that sounds like overfeeding - which I'm pretty convinced is what happened to begin with so I've cut them back to 1 meal a day (they hate me) to see if that helps. I rarely find leftover food debris but under and behind the foliage there could be some I'm missing. Early on I found 2 dead fish in one of my big tanks but that was the tank with the lowest ammonia reading at the time.