90 Gallon Stocking...again.

[LyraGuppi]

I have a 90 gallon around ready to be set up soon. What should my stocking look like?
I plan to have....
 
Angelfish
Blue Rams
Hatchetfish
Cory of some kind...
Maybe a Whiptail, if I can find one?
 
And the measurements, it is a bowfront.
50 inches across the front, 27 inches tall 12 1/2 inches wide on the side.The centre is 17 1/4 inches wide.
What numbers should I be looking at, of each fish?
I can't get Sterbais, they are about $10 a pop. No.
Aaaaand sorry, once again, for bringing up this tank again.

 

[LyraGuppi]

Nevermind on Kribs, , I thought they were hard water fish.

 

[LyraGuppi]

Came back too late to edit, would flame tetras be okay in this tank?

 

[kuzyaburst]

I've never owned Flame tetras before but it should be pretty fine with your stocking list, what kind of Angel are you thinking of? The numbers of fish you should be looking at depends on what kind of fish and how big do they get once they become adults. You can get away with having lots of fish but make sure they don't out grow the tank and have space to swim, I also recommend getting TOP-MIDDLE-BOTTOM level fish, you can get away with some things if you have fish swimming at different levels of the tank.  Also a very good and peaceful type of bottom dwelling fish are loaches, I currently own a couple Yo Yo Loaches in my tank, BUT I haven't seen many people keep loaches with Cory cats before so I don't really know about the mix of Cory cats and loaches, so beware of that. 

 

[LyraGuppi]

I've never owned Flame tetras before but it should be pretty fine with your stocking list, what kind of Angel are you thinking of?
Pterophyllum scalare, not sure the color variety.
The numbers of fish you should be looking at depends on what kind of fish and how big do they get once they become adults. You can get away with having lots of fish but make sure they don't out grow the tank and have space to swim, I also recommend getting TOP-MIDDLE-BOTTOM level fish, you can get away with some things if you have fish swimming at different levels of the tank.
Yeah, the rams usually inhabit the lower levels, the angels in the middle/lower, and hatchetfish stay at the top. Flames, I would think all over.
 Also a very good and peaceful type of bottom dwelling fish are loaches, I currently own a couple Yo Yo Loaches in my tank, BUT I haven't seen many people keep loaches with Cory cats before so I don't really know about the mix of Cory cats and loaches, so beware of that. 
Loaches are rare were I am, so they are kinda out of the question.

 

[attibones]

So basically you are building the same tank as I intend to do soon.

Do you know how many angels you want? You could safely do a group here.

Hatchets would be very fun.

Assuming you get tank-bred Angels (which is likely), you don't have to worry about super high temps. Depending on your substrate color, you could go with most of the mid-range cory species, so it's up to you really.

What ram species are you hoping to get? The GBR? If you've never had them before, I'll go ahead and say they can be tricky. I had two pair in a 55 gallon when I was still figuring out the basics of aquaria. They didn't last long. In fact they were the only fish I ever lost in that tank (except for some consumed fry). The Bolivians are better for hardiness, but the colors on those German Blues are hard to beat. Just avoid the balloon varieties. They have more problems.
EDIT: I see in your original post you said blue rams.

 

[LyraGuppi]

So basically you are building the same tank as I intend to do soon.

Great minds think alike! Sadly the tank may not become a angelfish tank...the dad wants rare severums species, the mom wants angels...

Do you know how many angels you want? You could safely do a group here.
Hmm...I've heard 5 is a bare minimum on groups?

Assuming you get tank-bred Angels (which is likely), you don't have to worry about super high temps. Depending on your substrate color, you could go with most of the mid-range cory species, so it's up to you really.
Okay, thanks.
What ram species are you hoping to get? The GBR? If you've never had them before, I'll go ahead and say they can be tricky. I had two pair in a 55 gallon when I was still figuring out the basics of aquaria. They didn't last long. In fact they were the only fish I ever lost in that tank (except for some consumed fry). The Bolivians are better for hardiness, but the colors on those German Blues are hard to beat. Just avoid the balloon varieties. They have more problems.
Bolivians or Blues, really.
And yes, I hate balloon species...yuk.

 

[attibones]

You could do six or eight Angels, I think. I hope your mom wins the argument! Angel tanks, in my opinion, are prettier than sevs, but to each their own. Lol

I'm interested to see what cory species you end up choosing (if you choose any). I can't make up my mind on what I want. I'm leaning towards pandas but I'm worried they will wash out on play sand or pool filter sand.

 

[LyraGuppi]

Me too, personally. I'd like the sevs, but angels are just sooooo gorgeous...

 

[Byron]

Just a caution here on temperature.  While Atticus is absolutely correct about commercially-raised angelfish not needing higher temperatures, you have mentioned blue rams and these need it.  This is usually why they do not last for aquarists.  No less than 80F, preferably 82F, for this species Mikrogeophagus ramirezi regardless of the variety.  Bolivians are able to manage with the "normal" temps around 77F.  My male Boliovian is well into his seventh year now, which is good for a fish with an expected lifespan of 4-5 years.
 
And if the tank is to be warm for blue rams, the angelfish will be OK and I would say 80F.  Corydoras need to be carefully selected at this high a temperature though, so species like Corydoras sterbai, C.leucomelas, and some others I will have to look up if names are wanted are better in warmth.
 
For numbers of angelfish, you are correct, five is minimum.  Any fewer (except for a bonded pair for breeding) and you run a real risk of bullying.  Angelfish are not a peaceful fish when it comes down to it; they have an hierarchy within their group and the more there are the more spread out it is, and everyone usually lives happily with the regular head butting and such to maintain their balance.
 
Byron.

 

[LyraGuppi]

Just a caution here on temperature.  While Atticus is absolutely correct about commercially-raised angelfish not needing higher temperatures, you have mentioned blue rams and these need it.  This is usually why they do not last for aquarists.  No less than 80F, preferably 82F, for this species Mikrogeophagus ramirezi regardless of the variety.  Bolivians are able to manage with the "normal" temps around 77F.  My male Boliovian is well into his seventh year now, which is good for a fish with an expected lifespan of 4-5 years.
Bolivians are okay, then.
 
For numbers of angelfish, you are correct, five is minimum.  Any fewer (except for a bonded pair for breeding) and you run a real risk of bullying.  Angelfish are not a peaceful fish when it comes down to it; they have an hierarchy within their group and the more there are the more spread out it is, and everyone usually lives happily with the regular head butting and such to maintain their balance.
K, thanks.

 

[508]

Nevermind on Kribs,

, I thought they were hard water fish.

 
Neither are the Angelfish, Rams, Cories or Hatchetfish? If you want large hard water fish rainbows are your best bet.

 

[LyraGuppi]

I have medium hard water.
 
I think the severums may win, the mom's said yes for them. :3
So,
 
Down goes my wallet...down the drain...

 

[Byron]

I have medium hard water.
 
I think the severums may win, the mom's said yes for them. :3
So,
 
Down goes my wallet...down the drain...

 
By severum I assume it is the species Heros efasciatus.  This fish can attain 12 inches, though aquarium fish generally are 8-10 inches.  One alone will work in your tank, but no more; a pair needs a lot more space.  Though relatively peaceful for a cichlid, they will eat smaller fish, which pretty well covers all the other fish being discussed here.
 
Byron.

 

[LyraGuppi]

A Rokteil pair, actually. Wills helped me out with a sev stocking a while back.