Which Rams Do I Have?

[Smells a bit fishy]

Right, I have looked everywhere to try and work out 1 which fish do I have, they were labelled as dwarf rams and 2 are they male or female.

Here are some pics, if you need others I could take more, if they arent hiding

The pics are about a 2 weeks old, the stressed out one, the colouring has calmed down alot, and some what brighter, took pics day after I got them.

I can take some more if that would make it easier

 

[fluttermoth]

They're Mikrogeophagus ramirezi (German or blue ram if you prefer).

The one in the top pic is almost certainly a male; can't tell with the other one from those pics, but I think that might be male too.

 

[Smells a bit fishy]

Ok thanks . If they are both male, will a 180 litre 4 foot tank be big enouph? I heard they have territorial issues, I think the second one is quite alot younger than the other, certainly a little smaller. However they do seem to go everywhere with each other lol

 

[StandbySetting]

Agree with Fluttermoth, both M.ramirezi 180L is fine, it is more likely to be females that will fight as they tend to create a territories, in a tank of this size two males should be no problem at all.

 

[Smells a bit fishy]

Ok this is another pic of the both of them, I think the first 2 pics are male and the second 2 are female, but please correct me if I am wrong.

First fish

Second fish

 

[Smells a bit fishy]

Sorry you are spot on, they are both males, both have a slightly larger second dorsal spike. Shame as would have liked them to breed, I've heard they become alot more colourful once they have bred.

Oh well, would I be able to add a female in there?

Thanks for your help

 

[minnnt]

If you add a lone female then i dare say all hell will break out between your two males. They're friendly at the moment due to them having nothing to fall out about... Add a member of the opposite sex and they all of a sudden have something to compete for. One will be forced to retreat and will probably not be very happy. Could you return one and try and get a female?

They'revery nice fish btw, stunning infact!

 

[Smells a bit fishy]

Why thankyou, I think I may just stick to the 2 males then, would be nice for them to spawn, but also I don't think my water is soft enough for it, and I don't really want the agression either. Also I think my angel will eat most of the fry.

Thanks for the compliment on how they look