Borngemini said:
Okay thanks will defo be getting some of that I'm not sure on waterlife though that myxazin didn't seem to help the cotton wool
I can't really evaluate WaterLife in terms of Myxazin because I've never had to use it.
I can say with certainty that Waterlife protozin and sterazin are highly effective products however. Sterazin will likely resolve the white faeces issue but myxazin will perhaps not cure the cotton wool alone; as previously discussed, I'd definitely consider removal of the cotton wool and then employing a topical treatment of the cotton wool growth spot (there will most likely be a wound) followed by use of wound seal. An open wound is an invitation to fungus/bacteria/parasites to re-infect the site if it is not treated and sealed and also causes the fish to suffer osmotic shock due to the fact that the water column has a different salinity level to that of it's bodily cells.
Okay,
) and to get a scrude of skin to see what parasite it is I can do that with that kio carp then add the wound healer where I did it?
You ideally need to sedate the fish as indicated in my 2nd reply. This is to make the fish unaware that you are handling it so that it doesn't die from stress. A sedative agent can be bought here:
http
/www.ntlabs.co.uk/products/Koi-Calm.html . You usually add the sedative agent to a bucket of water or isolation tank (not into your main tank) and wait for the fish to lose it's balance and have a slowed gill movement. It goes without saying that the bucket/isolation tank should have dechlorinated water with a temperature that is the same as the main tank (don't use the main tank water just incase fungal spores are in it). Once it loses its balances you need to transfer it to a separate bucket/tank that does not have any sedating agent in but which does have good oxygenation (i.e. a oxygen bubbler). You will need to handle the fish for the following steps so be sure to
pass water continually over the gills while it is out of the water.
You'd then need to take a skin swab by running a cotton wool bud gently down the scales from head to tail fin; don't do this in reverse as scale damage may occur. Once you have a sample on the cotton wool bud you ideally need to then analyse it under a microscope by moving the bud back and forth on a glass palette and using an appropriate lens on the microscope for identifying which protozoa if any your fish has.
you should do this analysis later as you need to concentrate on getting the fish treated and back in the tank water .
Now you've done the scrape, you need to very carefully remove the cotton wool with tweezers. Now either disinfect the wound with malachite green or use the ulcer swab product here:
http/www.ntlabs.co.uk/products/Ulcer-Swab.html . Put either, but not both, chemicals onto a cotton wool bud and apply to the wound(s) where the cotton was growing.
Ensure none of these chemicals travel to the gills or facial area.
Lastly, apply the wound seal product as found here:
http/www.ntlabs.co.uk/products/Wound-Seal.html .
Again, don't let this chemical travel to the gills/facial area
You've now sterilised the wound, removed the fungus (cotton-wool) and put a stop to the site(s) being reinfected.
I hope all of this information is of use. If you need anymore help just let me know.
Mark.
and to get a scrude of skin to see what parasite it is I can do that with that kio carp then add the wound healer where I did it?
