Two small lights or one big?

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G'day, I just bought a five foot tank but it didn't have lights. I already had 2 Hygger 3 foot lights but the ttank never seems bright enough. So, I'm wondering if a five foot light would be straonger and better?

Any help appreciated please
 
What are the tank dimensions (length x width x height)?

What brand of lights do you have and what is their wattage and Kelvin (K) rating? If you have a link to them it would help.

Did you want lots of plants in the tank?
What fish did you want to keep?
 
Oops I forgot the tank dimensions, 153cm x 50cm x 50cm. The lights I have currently are 2 x Hygger 3 foot lights "
  • PRODUCT PARAMETERS: ①Power:36W; ②Led QTY:153PCS(White:73PCS/BLUE:31PCS/ RED:11PCS/GREE:6PCS/ RGB:32PCS); ③CRI:85; ④Application(for Fish Tnak Long):36”-42” ; ⑥Power Cord: 5.9ft+2.3ft; ⑦Input Votage:AC100-240V; ⑧Output Votage:DC20V; ⑨Kelvin: White 6500K, Blue 455nm, Red 620nm, Green 560nm; ⑩Lumens:2778"
I had desires for a planted tank but everything seems to die except for floating plants and houseplants. The occupants are mainly different types of rainbow fish and a breeding pair of Electric Blue Acara
 
I think you are just under the minimum to keep easy plants. And it's probably why you find the tank under illuminated.

At the moment you are around 14 lumens per liter, it's recommended to have from 20 to 50 depending on the plants requirement.

At 5556 lumens for your 382 liter tank you are just a little under and would need between 5700 to 19000 lumens.

At least 30 lumens per liter (11500 Lumens) or about double what you have, for something able to grow a wide variety of plants.
 
I think you are just under the minimum to keep easy plants. And it's probably why you find the tank under illuminated.

At the moment you are around 14 lumens per liter, it's recommended to have from 20 to 50 depending on the plants requirement.

At 5556 lumens for your 382 liter tank you are just a little under and would need between 5700 to 19000 lumens.

At least 30 lumens per liter (11500 Lumens) or about double what you have, for something able to grow a wide variety of plants.
Great advice and info! :)

As is pretty well known to regulars here I'm just a little bit extreme 'old school'. LOL! I even still use under gravel filtration. While I am quite happy using LED lighting part of me still misses full spectrum florescent tubes.
 
Oops I forgot the tank dimensions, 153cm x 50cm x 50cm. The lights I have currently are 2 x Hygger 3 foot lights "
  • PRODUCT PARAMETERS: ①Power:36W; ②Led QTY:153PCS(White:73PCS/BLUE:31PCS/ RED:11PCS/GREE:6PCS/ RGB:32PCS); ③CRI:85; ④Application(for Fish Tank Long):36”-42” ; ⑥Power Cord: 5.9ft+2.3ft; ⑦Input Votage:AC100-240V; ⑧Output Votage:DC20V; ⑨Kelvin: White 6500K, Blue 455nm, Red 620nm, Green 560nm; ⑩Lumens:2778"
I had desires for a planted tank but everything seems to die except for floating plants and houseplants. The occupants are mainly different types of rainbow fish and a breeding pair of Electric Blue Acara
The three main points to consider for lighting include the height of the tank (50cm), the power of the light unit (36watts) and the light output (2778 Lumens).

The height of the tank is 50cm but the water depth will be a bit less due to the substrate and the water level not being to the top of the glass. The estimated water depth is probably around 40cm.

The width of the tank can also be a factor if the tank is wide. Yours is 50cm and most lights can cover that although a wider light unit or second light unit on each half of the tank would probably help if you have plants right through the tank. If the plants are all along the back half then a light along the back half would probably be adequate.

The wattage for the light generally relates to the output of the light, normally the higher the wattage the higher the output (lumens). I ran 36watt fluorescent globes over my 3 and 4 foot tanks (3 or 4ft long x 14inches wide x 18 inches high) and the plants didn't do much until I doubled or tripled the light (2 or 3 light units above each tank). My tanks were not as high or wide as your tank is, so you probably want more light.

Years ago when we had metal halide lights above the plant tank we used two x 150watt metal halide lights above a 4x2x2ft tank (4ft long x 2 ft wide x 2ft high). The plants did really well under this light. You would probably need two x 100+ watt lights above your tank if you want good plant growth. Most new LED light units can vary the light output so if you went for a couple of 150watt LED light units, you could reduce the light output if you found it was too bright. But I would say you need two x 100watt or 150watt LED light units above the tank to get good plant growth.

You also need to pick the right plants and use aquarium plant fertiliser to get the best results. Some plants sold in pet shops are not true aquatic plants and normally die when kept underwater. If you have lots of light on a tank but the plants don't get any nutrients, they won't grow very well.

The following link has some basic information about aquarium plants and might interest you.
 
Great advice and info! :)

As is pretty well known to regulars here I'm just a little bit extreme 'old school'. LOL! I even still use under gravel filtration. While I am quite happy using LED lighting part of me still misses full spectrum florescent tubes.

I'm really sold out. Even a cheap LED with a high CRI (89-90) does marvels.

I remember having a 75 gallons with 2 Hagen Sun-Glo and 1 Aqua-Glo t5 tubes.

Whatever how you configured them on separates timers to try to balance a normal day.

It was always not enough or too much.
 
Thanks heaps peoples, very imformative and helpful. I really appreciate it.

I just ordered one of these (half price special so I had to lol)
JOME Aquarium LED Light RGB Full Spectrum Fish Tank Lighting 5ft 150cm 60w
  • LED’s Count:120
  • Kelvin: 10,000K
  • LED TYPE : 57 x 10,000K White 5030 SMD,48 x Blue 5030 SMD, 7 x Red 5030 SMD, 5x Green 5030 SMD
 
That light publicity is a little miss leading imo, While it states to be for freshwater aquariums. The specs makes me think it's oriented toward Reef keeping.

The output is very rich in blue for a freshwater tank... But might be controllable enough to cope with that, You may want to still use your older 4100K to compensate the load of blue emitted.

It's less of a problem with fast growing plants, but can become a real pain with the slow ones.

If the tank look like a Laboratory refrigerator when lightened, You would want to lower the blue considerably.
 
It's a marine light and has too much blue light, return it and buy something with a Kelvin rating closer to 6500K.

You also want more wattage, 60watts, is less than you currently have.
 
There are websites selling lights with exactly the same spec as marine lights, so yes, send it back/cancel the order.

From one website (my bold highlighting)

JOME Aquarium Marine Full Spectrum LED Light 5ft 150cm
LED’s Count:120
Kelvin: 10,000K
LED TYPE : 57 x 10,000K White 5030 SMD,48 x Blue 5030 SMD, 7 x Red 5030 SMD, 5x Green 5030 SMD
Power Usage: 60 watts
 
The kind of light you are looking for, costs in the high Triple digit $$$, in nearly al brands at the base line.

You are talking about the kind of tanks, I cant justify funding on.

I go with 50 lumen and more per liter, but it's easy, I have super small tanks and will probably run them at a fraction of their potential forever.

The way LEDS works brings me to, buying way over powered strips that will run a third of the power for 3 times longer.

So Even if you buy a 150 watts Professional LEDs grade stuff, sized to your tank volume. You wont be able to run it at full capacity and have a lot cooler setup.

If that makes sense.
 

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