Thinking On Getting A Bigger Tank

[jacko9901]

hi

i've had a 40L tank for a year now and i was thinking about getting a new bigger tank. i've have been looking on the Seapets website and have seen 2 different tanks that would be a good size in my room and to replace my current tank. 1 of the tanks i was thinking on getting was the Fluval Roma 90. here's a link to the fluval tank

The other tank i was thinking on getting was a Juwel Record 60. here's a link to the juwel tank

both of these tanks our the almost the same size but i was wondering what tank and deal was better to get?

thanks for reading

 

[raptorrex]

hi

i've had a 40L tank for a year now and i was thinking about getting a new bigger tank. i've have been looking on the Seapets website and have seen 2 different tanks that would be a good size in my room and to replace my current tank. 1 of the tanks i was thinking on getting was the Fluval Roma 90. here's a link to the fluval tank

The other tank i was thinking on getting was a Juwel Record 60. here's a link to the juwel tank

both of these tanks our the almost the same size but i was wondering what tank and deal was better to get?

thanks for reading

humm 30 litres is quite a bit of water, though the extra water is up top. there is a fair bit of difference in price too. bit if asked id rather have the Fluvel 2 filter and the Tronic heater than the Juwel items. the Fluvel also comes with two lights and some other bits too. i feel you wont be far wrong with either, just i cant help thinking you may end up replacing things in the Juwel, well before you need to in the Fluvel.

 

[doresy]

Hi, always envious of someone getting new tank....great fun

IMO no contest with your 2 prefered choices. If you have the dosh then it has to be the Fluvel set-up.

Both for overall looks and reliability

But what do I know, I am an AquaOne nutter

 

[aaronnorth]

I would go with fluval, i've heard the juwel heaters can be quite troublesome. They also siliccone the filters in plus the fluval is bigger which is always better for fish and easier to keep. I also like the fluvalfor te looks, the juwel looks out dated. I am a fluval fan but i am nott just saying the above because it really is true!

 

[raptorrex]

I would go with fluval, i've heard the juwel heaters can be quite troublesome. They also siliccone the filters in plus the fluval is bigger which is always better for fish and easier to keep. I also like the fluvalfor te looks, the juwel looks out dated. I am a fluval fan but i am nott just saying the above because it really is true!

that would have been my choice too. though you may gain little from the extra capacity, as the floor area of the tanks are roughly the same, but it would make it better for fish like angels who like deeper water. i also think it looks much better than the Juwel item. keep us up to date on your progress

 

[jacko9901]

thanks for your advice. i prefered the fluval 1 too. i've got to save up money first but i was wondering how i could transfer the fish to one tank to another. i think i know where i can put the current tank because the new tank will go where the old one is. first the new tank will need to settle for a week or 2 but how will i transfer the fish i have to the new tank but keeping them to the same water quality there are used to?

 

[raptorrex]

thanks for your advice. i prefered the fluval 1 too. i've got to save up money first but i was wondering how i could transfer the fish to one tank to another. i think i know where i can put the current tank because the new tank will go where the old one is. first the new tank will need to settle for a week or 2 but how will i transfer the fish i have to the new tank but keeping them to the same water quality there are used to?

well this would be my advice, others may have a different method.

as you are short of space, i would say rinse the tank out, thoroughly using some of the old tank water. next step depends on how you keep your tank. i will assume, for speed, you totally clean your substrate, not allowing it to be part of your bio area. remove most of the water, leaving 6 or so inches in. transfer the removed water to your new tank, along with the old filter and any deccor you are keeping. now transfer the rest of the water and the fish to the new tank. put in the new filter and run the two filters together, after couple of weeks or so, you can seed the new filter with the old media (squeeze the sponges into the media area of the new filter), place the old media in a bag or old stocking, for those who remember them!, and place them in the tank. using the old filter should give you a ready cycled tank, though it would be unwise to add new fish for a week or so. if you use your substrate, as i do, as part of the bio area, things are a little more complicated, i will however deal with that if it is the case.

 

[jacko9901]

well this would be my advice, others may have a different method.

as you are short of space, i would say rinse the tank out, thoroughly using some of the old tank water. next step depends on how you keep your tank. i will assume, for speed, you totally clean your substrate, not allowing it to be part of your bio area. remove most of the water, leaving 6 or so inches in. transfer the removed water to your new tank, along with the old filter and any deccor you are keeping. now transfer the rest of the water and the fish to the new tank. put in the new filter and run the two filters together, after couple of weeks or so, you can seed the new filter with the old media (squeeze the sponges into the media area of the new filter), place the old media in a bag or old stocking, for those who remember them!, and place them in the tank. using the old filter should give you a ready cycled tank, though it would be unwise to add new fish for a week or so. if you use your substrate, as i do, as part of the bio area, things are a little more complicated, i will however deal with that if it is the case.
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there might be a problem with putting the old spongesin the new filter. the filter i have at the moment is a elite stingray 10 so the sponges are pointed to fit in the filter instead of square ones that go in the fluval. would this be a problem.

 

[raptorrex]

there might be a problem with putting the old spongesin the new filter. the filter i have at the moment is a elite stingray 10 so the sponges are pointed to fit in the filter instead of square ones that go in the fluval. would this be a problem.

ahh i didn't mean put the sponges in the filter, sorry i was unclear there. squeeze the sponges into the media in your new filter after a couple of weeks. then put the sponges and any white pads into a bag, then place this in the tank. theory being that, though you have squeezed most of the bacteria out of the sponges, any left will migrate to the substrate. or if you place the bag under the filter inlet they would be drawn up into the filter to join their mates!

just being careful really, but i "find every little helps". humm that sound good, wonder if i could sell the catch line to a supermarket?

 

[jacko9901]

where you say to clean the substrate and leave 6 inches of water left in the tank. does that mean to take the gravel out of my old tank to clean and then put it into the new tank but keep the fish in the tank while taking the substrate out or take the fish out and then take the substrate out?

 

[Shrimper]

I have a Jewel tank and i cycled it by using some of the sponges from my stingray filter. If you chop the sponge in half it will wedge in between the sponges in the new filter quite nicely.

 

[raptorrex]

where you say to clean the substrate and leave 6 inches of water left in the tank. does that mean to take the gravel out of my old tank to clean and then put it into the new tank but keep the fish in the tank while taking the substrate out or take the fish out and then take the substrate out?

well i was assuming you were not transferring the substrate from your old tank, this would mean a third tank to hold the fish in as you do it.

 

[jacko9901]

well i was assuming you were not transferring the substrate from your old tank, this would mean a third tank to hold the fish in as you do it.

would it be ok to put them in a big bucket and put a cover over it to keep the water the right temperature

 

[Shrimper]

well i was assuming you were not transferring the substrate from your old tank, this would mean a third tank to hold the fish in as you do it.

It wont need to be an actual tank, you can get a big plastic tub and put the filter and heater in it to hold the fish short term.

 

[raptorrex]

well i was assuming you were not transferring the substrate from your old tank, this would mean a third tank to hold the fish in as you do it.

It wont need to be an actual tank, you can get a big plastic tub and put the filter and heater in it to hold the fish short term.

quite so, i really should have said that. thanks Shrimper.