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When I made a boot disc for Win10 it formatted the disc drive. It had a partition in and was a huge drive. It took about 10 hours to do.

They recommended an 8GB drive for a win10 boot disc. What size usb drive do you need for win11?
 
They recommended an 8GB drive for a win10 boot disc. What size usb drive do you need for win11?
I had 9.6 GB worth of files in the end for win11. 16gb USB would probably be the minimum requirement.

My Windows key also didn't work for the activation, and even the backup key as well. Ended up buying another Windows 10 key off G2A, as using win10 keys on win11 still works for now.
 
When I made a boot disc for Win10 it formatted the disc drive. It had a partition in and was a huge drive. It took about 10 hours to do.

They recommended an 8GB drive for a win10 boot disc. What size usb drive do you need for win11?
Not sure what you are saying but I'll try. ;)
  • For the install media you need 8 GB. By install media I mean the flash drive that holds the installer for Windows 11. This has nothing to do with the final Windows 11 install but just for the media to do the install. Windows 11 install media will no longer fit on a single layer DVD. To make the install media on an optical disk you would need a dual layer DVD or Blu-ray.
  • As to the minimum drive size for the destination of the Windows 11 install the requirement is 64 GB but, if you need a lot of installed apps I'd, realistically, say a minimum of a 120 GB. Keep in mind that the stated 64 GB drive size is, I believe, free space, not actual drive size. I don't consider this as an issue as who is still using a 64 GB drive for system? ;) The thing is, if doing an upgrade install, there will be a folder called Windows.old that allows for reverting back to Windows 10. This folder is huge and is part of the reason for the 64 GB minimum drive size.
Also remember that 10-15% of a drives free space is needed to be able to do such maintenance as a defrag if using a spin drive. This also contributes to the minimum required drive space.

@Colin_T Just how large was the drive that took 10 hours to format? In my experience with, both, Win 10 and 11 the format is a matter of seconds in a 1 TB drive. I would suspect a drive issue unless there is an option to do a full format instead of the normal quick format. I can't remember if there is such...
 
Holy hell, that was a pain.. So I installed Win11 media creation tool onto a USB. No issues. I select it as the boot in BIOS, loads perfectly. I go to delete the partitions of the old C drive and load Win11 into the unallocated space. Win11 installs, but around 86% completion, it fails without a code error or anything suggesting what the issue was. After digging into older posts on Reddit. It turns out Win11 media isn't fond of FAT32.. Microsoft couldn't even be bothered to add a check box or a message asking whether or not the USB is formatted in FAT32, and that it's not compatible.. Now, because my C drive partitions had been deleted, I had no access to my PC. So the Nuc came to the rescue. Only issue is that you can't seem to run the W11 media creation tool on a W10 PC.. So I had to download the W10 MCT, install that using a FAT32 USB, and then do an internal upgrade to W11 through the upgrade windows part of the settings .. Its currently 5 am. It took me around 3 hours to do all that.

Thank you, Billy gates 🙃

Well atleast Microsoft store works and snipping tool! Now onto the manual removal of all the bloat!

Why not go with the latest W11 at that point...
Tell me just 1 reason why...

Create a Boot USB with Rufus and select appropriate option upon creation...

Delete all partition and install in free space... If that does not work... You have to check hardware.
 
When I made a boot disc for Win10 it formatted the disc drive. It had a partition in and was a huge drive. It took about 10 hours to do.

They recommended an 8GB drive for a win10 boot disc. What size usb drive do you need for win11?
10 hours ? to install windows or create installation thumb drive...

One or the other... Something else is at play... Like not having the specs to do it...

Burning a W11 iso on a USB 2 drive is slow... But it's under an hour in any case.

Installation is not really faster... But 10 hours.. is like an installation on a 25 years old computer.

It's impossible.. I install W11 on third gen icore intel and don't spend a week on that.

Are you trying to do all of this on a hard drive ??? Get a small ssd quick...

Even if you need to skip a meal...

Honestly it's not that bad, a week groceries cost more than a 52 inch TV today.
 
Why not go with the latest W11 at that point...
Tell me just 1 reason why...

Create a Boot USB with Rufus and select appropriate option upon creation...

Delete all partition and install in free space... If that does not work... You have to check hardware.
I assume you mean, why didn't I repair the original Win11 with a fresh install? If so, I couldn't. There were too many corrupted files and lost data using the debloater. I had already attempted a repair weeks ago, and it couldn't handle it.

I know of Rufus and its advantages. I just did it a way I thought I knew would work. Obviously not 100% ideal. But it's done now :lol:
 
@Colin_T Just how large was the drive that took 10 hours to format? In my experience with, both, Win 10 and 11 the format is a matter of seconds in a 1 TB drive. I would suspect a drive issue unless there is an option to do a full format instead of the normal quick format. I can't remember if there is such...
Pretty sure it was 4GB external hard-drive and had a partition coz my old pc couldn't read 4GB HDs (it could only read 2GB), that took all night. I was trying to make a win10 boot disc on it.
 
What I need now is a step by step how to guide to do the bios and install win11 on a brand new pc I am going to build. I ordered the parts yesterday and have to pick them up. I should be able to build the physical machine but have no idea about the bios or a fresh install of win10 or 11. Back in the day I put win3.1 and 95, 98 on a computer but they had floppy discs and then cds, dvds.

I assume I will need a 16GB usb stick to make the boot disc. Anyone know where I go to get the info to put on the usb stick? Then how do I stick it on the new pc?
 
It should be pretty starightforward https://windowsforum.com/threads/in...reation-tool-guide-and-migration-tips.383141/
You don't actually have to have a microsft account. The easiest way to get the prompt for a local user account is not to connect to the network while running the install. There are other ways - use google.
Look at the prompts during install and if appropriate say no to everyything when they ask for permission to track stuff.
 
Do I need a license to have win11 now?
I thought microsofty was giving win10 and 11 to anyone for free?

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What do these mean? Apparently I need them to set up win11.
  • UEFI firmware with Secure Boot capability enabled.
  • TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) enabled.
 
Do I need a license to have win11 now?
I thought microsofty was giving win10 and 11 to anyone for free?

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What do these mean? Apparently I need them to set up win11.
  • UEFI firmware with Secure Boot capability enabled.
  • TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) enabled.
The upgrades were free; not the initial license however there are loop holes I htink i don't know. I have one of these really good license on windows 7 that allows me to install on any machine and upgrade whatever (unfortunately it is limited to one machine at a time).
 
The upgrades were free; not the initial license however there are loop holes I htink i don't know. I have one of these really good license on windows 7 that allows me to install on any machine and upgrade whatever (unfortunately it is limited to one machine at a time).
There are actually scripts out there that will force an activation to any level of Windows 10/11 that you want including Enterprise that does not need a license at all. I tried one when I was doing a clean install on one of my systems and the thing showed as activated as Enterprise and there was no issue with updates or anything. I then wiped the system and installed legit. An OS, as is any program, is just code. If code can be written, it can be unwritten. No, I will not post links to such scripts nor will I help in using as they are quite illegal and I believe in running legit systems.

There is an oddity with one of my systems which is a Mac Book Air on which I dual boot Windows 11 and Mac OS. I use the Mac OS Boot Camp to handle the dual boot. Initially I had Win 10 as the Windows side of the boot and decided to see if the thing would handle Win 11 so did an upgrade install. Oddly the Win 11 install automatically activated even though it was well after when you were supposed to be able to upgrade from Win 10 for free. Since I did absolutely nothing to bypass a legit activation I consider the activation good and the system legit.
 
There is an oddity with one of my systems which is a Mac Book Air on which I dual boot Windows 11 and Mac OS. I use the Mac OS Boot Camp to handle the dual boot. Initially I had Win 10 as the Windows side of the boot and decided to see if the thing would handle Win 11 so did an upgrade install. Oddly the Win 11 install automatically activated even though it was well after when you were supposed to be able to upgrade from Win 10 for free. Since I did absolutely nothing to bypass a legit activation I consider the activation good and the system legit.
Hmmm interesting. As a former software engineer I also support legal software...
But the trial of WIn11 I installed on Hyper-V when I was setting up my Intune config has never shown any signs that it needs activation. Now I know the docs are a bit vague about when and how it actually kicks in but I never bothered to investigate because the whole point of the excercise was that I could provision a new machine in minutes so could have a rolling 90 day trial forever. but your post prompted me to go and check and I found this...
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The host machine is Windows 11 Pro so its not a piggy back. I don't believe business is an official release name (it behaves just like Pro), and we don't have any corporate licencing agreement. There is an O365 business licence associated with the MS account I use on that machine but (AFAIK) that does not entitle me to Windows licensing. I have done a fresh start on this VM several times (using Intune) to test stuff, and on the odd occasion when I completely screwed it up :whistle:

I guess there may be an outside chance its picked up an old digital retail licence from 7,8 or 10 that I had forgotten about - but I always thought you had to de-activate the old machine online to throw the licence back in the pool :huh:
But like you, I am treating this as a legit system.
 
Hmmm interesting. As a former software engineer I also support legal software...
But the trial of WIn11 I installed on Hyper-V when I was setting up my Intune config has never shown any signs that it needs activation. Now I know the docs are a bit vague about when and how it actually kicks in but I never bothered to investigate because the whole point of the excercise was that I could provision a new machine in minutes so could have a rolling 90 day trial forever. but your post prompted me to go and check and I found this...
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The host machine is Windows 11 Pro so its not a piggy back. I don't believe business is an official release name (it behaves just like Pro), and we don't have any corporate licencing agreement. There is an O365 business licence associated with the MS account I use on that machine but (AFAIK) that does not entitle me to Windows licensing. I have done a fresh start on this VM several times (using Intune) to test stuff, and on the odd occasion when I completely screwed it up :whistle:

I guess there may be an outside chance its picked up an old digital retail licence from 7,8 or 10 that I had forgotten about - but I always thought you had to de-activate the old machine online to throw the licence back in the pool :huh:
But like you, I am treating this as a legit system.
I MAY have a thought on your systems... You are using a VM for the install and boot to Windows. Since any VM on a host is going to show the same system ID signature any previous install of 11 on a guest system just MAY carry over the digital license as it is, in essence, the same system.

Problem I'm having with Win 11 on my main desktop is that it installs fine but goes to a black screen on the final boot which tends to point to a video driver issue. One time I DID actually boot to Win 11 with success and it even showed as activated as quite a while back I DID have Win 11 on the system. Sadly, on a reboot, it went back to the black screen or a boot loop. This situation is rather odd as I've previously had Win 11 on the thing without issue but then it dies and I ended up having to do a clean install of Win 10. Thing is that I'm not sure as to why it died. Two things happened close to the same time. Had a 'feature update' for Win 11 and was also playing with pass through cards to be able to mount an M.2 drive to a PCIe 16 slot. Not really sure which caused the failure. TPM and Secure Boot are fine on the system but the 1st gen AMD Ryzen 7 8-core/16 thread fails which is stupid as I have Win 11 doing fine on a few much less able processors including my Micro system that has a Celeron4-core... I am currently doing install media for Win 11 using Rufus to bypass hardware checks and will try again in a few ways. Last resort will be to do a clean install. This is one of the reasons that I like doing clone backups as if there is a total failure I just boot to the clone and clone back to the normal system drive.

Since, today, I just successfully extended Win 10 security updates on the main system for free I have plenty of time to figure this out. Still have to get my second desktop extended as to updates and MAY have to change that system from a local account to a Microsoft account to do so.
 
Hmmm interesting. As a former software engineer I also support legal software...
But the trial of WIn11 I installed on Hyper-V when I was setting up my Intune config has never shown any signs that it needs activation. Now I know the docs are a bit vague about when and how it actually kicks in but I never bothered to investigate because the whole point of the excercise was that I could provision a new machine in minutes so could have a rolling 90 day trial forever. but your post prompted me to go and check and I found this...
Think I figured it out. Windows business is the subscription version (sold as Windows 365). Now I don't have a subscription but I suspect a glitch in the backend systems (many of which are still held together by bits of string, elastic bands and even chewing gum). The same has happened on my laptop so here is the theory:
  1. Installed Windows pro in VM using media created by the media creation tool but don't activate it (its a trial version). At this point it was showing as a trial and counting down to expiration
  2. Register device with Intune so it has its fingerprint
  3. Initiate remote Windows re-install via Intune
  4. Intune sends installer for Windows
  5. Installer checks back with the mothership
  6. Mothership confirms it recognises the fingerprint so installer activates Windows business licence (because that is primarily what Intune was designed for)
Step 3 may not actually be neccessary, it may happen duiring upgrade. I just checked one of the real machines which came with Windows Pro (Lenovo OEM), that one is also tagged as Windows business! So in this case business may just indicate that it is managed by the mothership.
 

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