Stock List

[scouse_george]

went to my fisheries few weeks ago and wrote the fish down that they have went today and its more or less the same so i will write back what i wrote a few weeks ago, i also went to sefton meadows some nice fish but its expensive anyway...


penguin tetra
coloured glass fish
flowered parrot fish
red eye tetra
fire mouth cichlids
asorted cichlids
convicts
oscars
kibensis
jewel cichlids
sunset platys
swordtails
red platys
milk calico platys
sunburst micky mouse platys
tuxedo sunset platys
butterfly fish
dwarf gouramis
kissing gouramis
silver gouramis
golden gouramis
honey gouramis
pearl gouramis
snake skin gouramis
cory doran cats
spotted puffers
catfish guppys
guppys
pictus cats
congo tetras
glo fish/mollies
ballon mollies
silver/black/orange mollies
harlequins
black phantom tetras
sissor tail fish
columbian red fin tetra
golden danios
peter elephant noise
zebra danios
silver dollars
small clown loach
cherry barbs
rainbow tetra
small/large neons
black widows
sun angels?
tin foil fish barbs
glo lights
rosey barbs
pristella tetra
rainbow tetra
green barbs
dalmation mollies
serpae tetra
red tail black sharkes
albino fish
silver sharks
red snake heads
discus fish


what fish could i have could someone make a list of what i could have please and what i could have together

 

[simonas]

what size tank mate and what sort of set up you wanting? colouful small fish or maybe bigger specimen fish?

 

[scouse_george]

what size tank mate and what sort of set up you wanting? colouful small fish or maybe bigger specimen fish?

lenght is 39'' width is 17'' height 19'' colourful fish not too small not too big, i would mind some medium and some small i guess not just too small i dont wana kiss the tank just to look for the fish lol, i did have 5 parrots but got told to get rid because my tank would in the end be big enough for them, this was when i bought them with the tank not sure if it was cycled but i am in the middle of a fishless cycle anyway

also my local fisheries its quite cheap like 5 fish for £4.50 in the place i went today it was like 2 for £7 or something now i guess they are just expensive i guess the fish are equally healthy and ok to have just they are expensive prices in this shop compared to the other, so i have nothing to worry about do i ? because obviously i will go for the cheaper price and i can always go to the other shop to get fish that arnt in the other shop if this makes sense

 

[Wills]

Right so thats 55 US gallons what filter do you have on it? Basically Ill go through this list you posted and give you my comments on each - here goes

penguin tetra - should be okay
coloured glass fish - I would suggest you never shop at this store again, these are tattooed fish and it is a terrible practise in the hobby
flowered parrot fish - Hybrid fish but if you like it okay, as long as its not dyed what colour are they?
red eye tetra - should be good
fire mouth cichlids - should be good - but community will need to be considered
asorted cichlids - could include any of 1000 or so species so need to narrow down specific fish, although I have a feeling these will be assorted african cichlids which is a different route of fish with quite specific needs
convicts - similar to fire mouths but with more considerations as they are to aggressive - I would avoid them
oscars - to big for the tank need 75g for one and over 100g before you think of other tank mates
kibensis - same as firemouth
jewel cichlids - same as convict
sunset platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
swordtails - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
red platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
milk calico platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
sunburst micky mouse platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
tuxedo sunset platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
butterfly fish - could work well but community would need to be considered carefully
dwarf gouramis - should be fine
kissing gouramis - bit too big for tank, though one could work with a considered community
silver gouramis - should be fine - nice fish
golden gouramis - should be fine but more aggressive than silvers
honey gouramis - should be fine
pearl gouramis - nice fish for tank
snake skin gouramis - nice fish for tank
cory doran cats - corydora cats yep any of the cory species are fine
spotted puffers - nope, need species tanks as they are nippy and their beaks do serious damage
catfish guppys - ..... not heard of these? Pics?
guppys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
pictus cats - fine good fish for the tank
congo tetras - nice fish for the tank
glo fish/mollies - - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies (didnt know you got glo mollies now )
ballon mollies - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
silver/black/orange mollies - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
harlequins - good fish for tank
black phantom tetras - good fish for tank
sissor tail fish - should be okay
columbian red fin tetra - should be okay
golden danios - as above
peter elephant noise - little big for the tank though single specimen could work but if its your first tank I would avoid it as they need quite specialist care and are highly sensative to medicine which can be an issue if it arrises
zebra danios - good
silver dollars - nice fish but get quite big and although well suited for the tank would limit the rest of your stock
small clown loach - will grow into big clown loaches and eventually outgrow the tank
cherry barbs - good fish for tank
rainbow tetra - not heard of but assume it will be okay, unless it was a rainbow fish rather than tetra?
small/large neons - good fish, little delecate and need to be added to a mature tank of around 6 months old
black widows - good fish for tank
sun angels? - angel fish would be okay, tank is nice and tall so not too much of an issue
tin foil fish barbs - get too big and active, have a look in the members pics section at the 1000 gallon tank and see his adults
glo lights - good
rosey barbs - should be good but
pristella tetra - good
rainbow tetra - as above
green barbs - possibly green tiger barbs a bit nippy but manageable in large schools
dalmation mollies - - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
serpae tetra - quite nippy would go for other tetras if you wanted them
red tail black sharkes - nice fish for tank but a more peaceful relative is the rainbow shark which has all red fins and would perhaps be a bit better
albino fish - need to narrow it down a bit all fish have albino strains
silver sharks - same as tinfoil barbs
red snake heads - these get really big about 4 feet, but there are other dwarf snakeheads available so perhaps sometimes to research
discus fish - need quite specialist care but perhaps possible in this tank but I wouldnt reccomend for first tank.

If it was my tank from that list I would do -

2 x Silver Gouramis
2 x Pearl Gouramis
8 x Congo Tetras
12 x Cherry Barbs
3 x Pictus Cats

So that gives you a good mix of mid sized fish with some bright red flashes darting around the tank.

Obviously though if you like other fish off your list better there are other stocking options for you to consider, hope thats helped

Wills

 

[scouse_george]

Right so thats 55 US gallons what filter do you have on it? Basically Ill go through this list you posted and give you my comments on each - here goes

penguin tetra - should be okay
coloured glass fish - I would suggest you never shop at this store again, these are tattooed fish and it is a terrible practise in the hobby
flowered parrot fish - Hybrid fish but if you like it okay, as long as its not dyed what colour are they?
red eye tetra - should be good
fire mouth cichlids - should be good - but community will need to be considered
asorted cichlids - could include any of 1000 or so species so need to narrow down specific fish, although I have a feeling these will be assorted african cichlids which is a different route of fish with quite specific needs
convicts - similar to fire mouths but with more considerations as they are to aggressive - I would avoid them
oscars - to big for the tank need 75g for one and over 100g before you think of other tank mates
kibensis - same as firemouth
jewel cichlids - same as convict
sunset platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
swordtails - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
red platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
milk calico platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
sunburst micky mouse platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
tuxedo sunset platys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
butterfly fish - could work well but community would need to be considered carefully
dwarf gouramis - should be fine
kissing gouramis - bit too big for tank, though one could work with a considered community
silver gouramis - should be fine - nice fish
golden gouramis - should be fine but more aggressive than silvers
honey gouramis - should be fine
pearl gouramis - nice fish for tank
snake skin gouramis - nice fish for tank
cory doran cats - corydora cats yep any of the cory species are fine
spotted puffers - nope, need species tanks as they are nippy and their beaks do serious damage
catfish guppys - ..... not heard of these? Pics?
guppys - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
pictus cats - fine good fish for the tank
congo tetras - nice fish for the tank
glo fish/mollies - - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies (didnt know you got glo mollies now )
ballon mollies - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
silver/black/orange mollies - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
harlequins - good fish for tank
black phantom tetras - good fish for tank
sissor tail fish - should be okay
columbian red fin tetra - should be okay
golden danios - as above
peter elephant noise - little big for the tank though single specimen could work but if its your first tank I would avoid it as they need quite specialist care and are highly sensative to medicine which can be an issue if it arrises
zebra danios - good
silver dollars - nice fish but get quite big and although well suited for the tank would limit the rest of your stock
small clown loach - will grow into big clown loaches and eventually outgrow the tank
cherry barbs - good fish for tank
rainbow tetra - not heard of but assume it will be okay, unless it was a rainbow fish rather than tetra?
small/large neons - good fish, little delecate and need to be added to a mature tank of around 6 months old
black widows - good fish for tank
sun angels? - angel fish would be okay, tank is nice and tall so not too much of an issue
tin foil fish barbs - get too big and active, have a look in the members pics section at the 1000 gallon tank and see his adults
glo lights - good
rosey barbs - should be good but
pristella tetra - good
rainbow tetra - as above
green barbs - possibly green tiger barbs a bit nippy but manageable in large schools
dalmation mollies - - fine, but if you mix male and female you get tons of babies
serpae tetra - quite nippy would go for other tetras if you wanted them
red tail black sharkes - nice fish for tank but a more peaceful relative is the rainbow shark which has all red fins and would perhaps be a bit better
albino fish - need to narrow it down a bit all fish have albino strains
silver sharks - same as tinfoil barbs
red snake heads - these get really big about 4 feet, but there are other dwarf snakeheads available so perhaps sometimes to research
discus fish - need quite specialist care but perhaps possible in this tank but I wouldnt reccomend for first tank.

If it was my tank from that list I would do -

2 x Silver Gouramis
2 x Pearl Gouramis
8 x Congo Tetras
12 x Cherry Barbs
3 x Pictus Cats

So that gives you a good mix of mid sized fish with some bright red flashes darting around the tank.

Obviously though if you like other fish off your list better there are other stocking options for you to consider, hope thats helped

Wills

not read all of it i will when i come back mate as i am in a rush to go on my nans i dont really like the cat fish and is that all i could have in my big tank? it doesnt seem alot of fish, will read above what you said about the fish when i get back, also can someone else tell me what i could have in the tank, and what i could have together so i could pick my self and also suggestions like will has done thanks, back soon


ps the filter is a fluval 405 external

 

[Wills]

Ah right good news on the filter thats a nice one that! With the amount of fish its quite a decent number as all the fish apart from the cherry barbs get to at least a chunky 3-4 inches. With the gouramis hitting 5-6 inches each and a big shoal of the congo tetras really fill up a tank quick.

 

[OldMan47]

You might try something Scouse. Give us a list of the top 4 or 5 fish that you really like and maybe we can help you get most of what you want or some similar looking fish. Often times I will look at 10 fish and think that each one is great as a community resident on its own but then realize that it is a hard water fish to be placed into a soft water tank, or vice versa. The list of your favorites among the fish you have seen will let us try to match things up and help you avoid incompatible tank mates. It will also suggest, to the more experienced members, fish that are similar in either appearance or personality, to the fish you like but that would also fit in with the rest of your stocking. A huge list like you have provided means that we end up designing your tank from fish that you don't really care about. A fish stock where you have your favorite fish is much more likely to be successful for the simple reason that you will care more about how they are cared for.

 

[scouse_george]

glo lights
pearl/snake skin gouramis
penguin tetra
harlequins
rainbow tetra
congo tetras
black phantom tetras
rainbow shark
plec

possibly that,unless i see some other nice fish

 

[DuMScOuSe]

What are rainbow tetra? Never heard of them. Peral gouram are nicer to look at than snakeskin. Rainbow shark might be too mad for the tank.

 

[OldMan47]

The penguins, harlequins and glolights will work fine together. The plecostomus can get very large so even a large tank like your may be too small for it in the long run. Pearl gouramis can get very large but would work OK in your tank as long as you avoid small fish like neons. The sharks deserve their name, anything we call sharks as a common name seem to eat lots of other fish. Some are quite nice to look at but you need to be aware of the down side. Most of the fish you have selected will prefer fairly soft water. Is that what you have coming from the tap?

 

[scouse_george]

The penguins, harlequins and glolights will work fine together. The plecostomus can get very large so even a large tank like your may be too small for it in the long run. Pearl gouramis can get very large but would work OK in your tank as long as you avoid small fish like neons. The sharks deserve their name, anything we call sharks as a common name seem to eat lots of other fish. Some are quite nice to look at but you need to be aware of the down side. Most of the fish you have selected will prefer fairly soft water. Is that what you have coming from the tap?

dont know mate will i have to test the nirite and nirate from the tap ? a plec would be ok wouldnt it ? like a BN or somethin, what about the other fish i mentioned and how many penguins harlequins and glo lights could i have

 

[scouse_george]

also the Pristella Tetra i like

 

[OldMan47]

A BN plec would be fine in a tank your size. A common plec would be too large for that tank. I have a few albino BNPs in my own 45 gallon, about 180 litres tank. The few that I have in there are still growing juveniles, but I fully expect them to form acceptable breeding groups in the tank. I will be picking up some breeding caves at an ALA club convention this coming week. I saw some very nice BNP caves offered for sale at the last ALA convention by vendors who were there knowing that people would be present who they knew for sure were fish enthusiasts. I do not really like their assumptions but must admit that their perception is correct. Even though I do not want to be fleeced as a hobbyist, the potential deals at the convention is too tempting to pass up. They will probably sell me a few BNP caves even at a livebearer convention.

 

[scouse_george]

A BN plec would be fine in a tank your size. A common plec would be too large for that tank. I have a few albino BNPs in my own 45 gallon, about 180 litres tank. The few that I have in there are still growing juveniles, but I fully expect them to form acceptable breeding groups in the tank. I will be picking up some breeding caves at an ALA club convention this coming week. I saw some very nice BNP caves offered for sale at the last ALA convention by vendors who were there knowing that people would be present who they knew for sure were fish enthusiasts. I do not really like their assumptions but must admit that their perception is correct. Even though I do not want to be fleeced as a hobbyist, the potential deals at the convention is too tempting to pass up. They will probably sell me a few BNP caves even at a livebearer convention.

not bad mate

10 glo lights
3 female 1 male gourami
10 penguin
10 harlequins
10 rainbow tetra
bn plec

what else could i have? nothing as big as a gourami but nothing as smallish as the other fish just inbetween would be nice if i could possibly do so?

p.s or whats better than penguin fish?

 

[OldMan47]

It looks like you are nearing a good first stocking level for that tank. With thwe gouramis, I would stick with some of the smaller species of gourami, mot the big pearls or blue gouramis.