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clivealive

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i have nitrate of around 80 and ive tried loads of things , what do u think is best.  210L tank
obvious water changes done a lot.
ive tried
purigen
nitrazorb
pad remover (poly filter)
 
maybe iam not using enough or there is something better ?
 
there's a bag by JBL that I was recommended by the guy at MA. I'll have to check what it was called though. I'll have a look and pop back
 
Akasha72 said:
there's a bag by JBL that I was recommended by the guy at MA. I'll have to check what it was called though. I'll have a look and pop back
thanks
 
this is it - hope the link works https://www.jbl.de/?lang=en&mod=products&func=detail&id=2428

the bloke at MA said you need to keep the media bags completely flat for the best results. If they're not flat they become full of air or something and then they don't work. He said he'd used them on his own tank and they work well
 
Akasha72 said:
this is it - hope the link works https://www.jbl.de/?lang=en&mod=products&func=detail&id=2428

the bloke at MA said you need to keep the media bags completely flat for the best results. If they're not flat they become full of air or something and then they don't work. He said he'd used them on his own tank and they work well
thanks will try that amounst others
 
   Is your tank planted? Live plants- if you have fish compatible with them -do much to keep nitrates down.
 
how does  absorbs 9000 mg nitrate  equate to nitrate of 80 ??????

SherLar said:
   Is your tank planted? Live plants- if you have fish compatible with them -do much to keep nitrates down.
sadly no plants
 
One milligram is equal to one part per million in one liter.
so "absorbs 9000 mg of nitrate" means it will remove up to 90 parts per million in a 100 liter tank, or 9 parts per million in a 1000 liter tank.
 
Incidentally, if 80 ppm is the highest reading your test kit will give, there is a distinct possibility that your actual nitrates may be much higher than that.
 
How many water changes, and what percentage did you do each time when you tried water changes?
 
i do 50% water change every 10 days. kit goes hight than 80 thankfully

Jeremy180 said:
One milligram is equal to one part per million in one liter.
so "absorbs 9000 mg of nitrate" means it will remove up to 90 parts per million in a 100 liter tank, or 9 parts per million in a 1000 liter tank.
 
Incidentally, if 80 ppm is the highest reading your test kit will give, there is a distinct possibility that your actual nitrates may be much higher than that.
 
How many water changes, and what percentage did you do each time when you tried water changes?
hmm does that mean it will have an affect worth doing
 
Do you have nitrates in the source (presumably tap) water, and if yes, what level?  Or is this 80 ppm occurring solely within the aquarium?
 
Well, in your 210 liter tank this product would remove about 45 ppm before being overload and needing replacing.
If it were me, I would not consider this worth the money.
 
The cheapest way by far to remove impurities is with very large water changes.
 
If it were me, I would do two 75% water changes spaced two days apart, or four 50% water changes spaced one day apart.
This should bring your original nitrates down to about 5ppm, although more may have been produced by the fish or leeched back out of the substrate/decor by this time.

Byron said:
Do you have nitrates in the source (presumably tap) water, and if yes, what level?  Or is this 80 ppm occurring solely within the aquarium?
This is a very important issue that I hadn't considered.
Definitely test the tap water, and if the nitrates are that high, or anything over 10 ppm, I wouldn't drink the water, much less use it for fish.
 
clivealive said:
how does  absorbs 9000 mg nitrate  equate to nitrate of 80
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   Is your tank planted? Live plants- if you have fish compatible with them -do much to keep nitrates down.
sadly no plants
 
that's the problem then. What level is it in your tap water aswell? Mine is zero and I thought that was normal for the U.K but I've learned different lately so it might be that you've got it in your tap water too. Worth a check :)
 
JBL BioNitratex is designed to last around 12 months in a tank. It's the long term product unlike JBL Nitratex (you want the purple box not the orange).
In short it introduces denitrification into your aquarium. Occasionally the air needs to be squeezed out of the bags but I've read it works wonders.

May also be worth considering some form of aquaponics. I have cheese plants and spider plants growing out the top of my aquariums as I too suffer with 47.97mg/l coming from my tank - which equates to 50ppm going into the tank before fish waste is even added to it!
 
Byron said:
Do you have nitrates in the source (presumably tap) water, and if yes, what level?  Or is this 80 ppm occurring solely within the aquarium?
tap water is 30
also checked with water company a while ago and they confirmed its an average of 27  (human legal limit is 40 i think)

some chap was  organic soil in a sock can lower nitrate is this correct
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found this
http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Walstad_method
 
also how much prime to remove 30ppm from 10L bucket of tap water
 
i normally put 0.3 ml for chlorine etc)
 

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