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[Glenbo1981]

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[shroob]

Just as a informative end to the Vision/Vicenza debate, which may be useful to the topic starter and to Shroob.

Standard filled Vision=

48" L
18" W
26" H

=97.25 US Gallon
=80.97 UK Imp. Gallon
=368.12 Litres

How I have my Vicenza 260 filled (sorry not Venezia) =

48" L
19" W
26" H

= 102.65 US Gallon
85.47 UK Imp. Gallon
388.57 Litres

2 alterations need to be taken into consideration, the juwel is 24" high and more importantly, not uniformly 18" wide. By this I mean that the tank is bow fronted (obviously) while it may be 18" at its widest, it is barely over 12" at the extremities, which mean your calculations are wrong. I'm no mathematician so I don't know how to calculate the theoretical capasity due to the bow but in any case, its not 380 litres.

I'm haven't got a vicenza but I suspect they use the same marketing strategy as Juwel (widest point is given for width - who can blame them - when the tank tapers down to around 12" at the extremeties). Even Fluval's offical publication lists the tanks capasity as 260 litres. They even have an asterix next to that saying thats the maximum capasity (without filter etc.)

Sorry to go off topic hope the OP has the information needed.

 

[star4]

I have a juwel 260 vision in the front room its actually 47" x 13" x 25" water height being 21" and 18" at the widest point giving 264.6 litres or 69.9 usg, according to this calculator.
http/reef.diesyst.com/volcalc/volcalc.html

But as said earlier, I wouldnt go with a pair of convicts even small, my 1-2" juvi's are digging pits and looking to spawn.

 

[Glenbo1981]

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[shroob]

I don't understand what the confusion is here. I get that its around tank size, but are you actually trying to say the juwel vision 260 holds more than 260 litres?

I understand you said you had a Vicenza 260 which you said is similar dimensions to the Juwel, Fluval's official publication lists the dimensions as 121cm x 46cm x 64cm, BUT thats the maximum width, even they admit it holds 260 litres maximum. SEE HERE

I don't know what tank you have with those dimensions, but you do not have a fluval Vicenza 260.

 

[Glenbo1981]

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[star4]

The new juwel rio 400 has been made taller and does actually now hold 450l according to their site!, dont think they made one holding 500l?

 

[shroob]

I see what you are doing here and im giving up, please bother somebody else.

Everyone knows that what they state and what they are, are 2 different things, Flamebate someone else.

Of course they are, but surely, surely if the tank held 380 litres wouldn't they advertise it as that?! I don't see what you are confusing, please post or pm me.

Grrrr, please I'm not flaming or arguing, sorry if it comes across as that and appologies to anyone else reading this thread but I'm just trying to explain that the OP tank holds approx. 260 litres, as does the vicenza 260, not 380 litres as that would have a big impact on potential stocking.

 

[Glenbo1981]

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[shroob]

Even at the measurements that Shroob gave (which are lacking)

121x46x64 = 94.12 US G, 78.37 UK G, 356.22.

I'm not sure why Shroob is so desperate to prove otherwise.

Plus there is no filter in the Fluval, its pre-drilled with a External Fluval 406.

Here work it out for yourself http/animal-world.com/encyclo/information/calculate.htm

or any other volume calculator.

I am mentioning this because it is informative to the TS.

I'm just trying to point out that you're forgetting the tank is curved at the front, 121x46x64 does give a capasity of 360 litres BUT the tank isn't a rectangle. I'm desperate to prove otherwise because im trying to explain that due to the unusual shape of the tank, the dimensions specified are of maximum width, meaning that overall volume is much lower. Suggestions for stocking a 380 litre tank differ drastically from stocking a 260 litre tank. Even WITHOUT internal objects eg. filters, fluval's offical publication indicats maximum capasity of a vicenza 260 as 260 litres.

 

[star4]

Remember though the water volume is of an empty tank, once you add substrate etc you loose some litreage.

 

[shroob]

Remember though the water volume is of an empty tank, once you add substrate etc you loose some litreage.

My point exactly, both juwel and fluval state maximum capasity as 260 litres.

Glenboi1981 is either has a different tank than a cicenza 260 or is mistaken with measurements. I hope that they haven't stocked their tank in the belief they have an extra 120 litres of water.

 

[ChilliPepper]

Is this the tank you are talking about? http/www.seapets.co.uk/products/aquarium-supplies/aquariums/fluval/fluval-vicenza-aquarium-sets/fluval-vicenza-260-aquarium-and-cabinet-black-titanium-and-zebrano.html?ref=googlebase

If you put those measurements into the calculator, it comes out as a maximum capacity of 356L. Baring in mind that is with the tank full pretty much to the brim.
However as it isn't rectangular in shape, I don't think you can use the calculator. For example I have a hexagonal tank, so wouldn't be able to use the calculator. I think bowfronted tanks have to be measured differently, and I'd be happy to go with the manufacturer's measurements for that.

 

[shroob]

Is this the tank you are talking about? http/www.seapets.co.uk/products/aquarium-supplies/aquariums/fluval/fluval-vicenza-aquarium-sets/fluval-vicenza-260-aquarium-and-cabinet-black-titanium-and-zebrano.html?ref=googlebase

If you put those mesaurements into the calculator, it comes out as a maximum capacity of 356L. Baring in mind that is with the tank full pretty much to the brim.

That is one of the tanks we're talking about (that and the Juwel 260), puting them dimensions a calculator gives 365 because the advertisement states the tanks maximum width, at 18" but the tank is not 18" wide all the way along, which is what I've been trying to explain. The tank is bow fronted, meaning a its a lot narrower at the edges. The link you provided even states the tanks maximum capasity at 260 litres.

 

[rdp50734]

http/reef.diesyst.com/volcalc/volcalc.html

input your calculations into this one you can choose bow front type aquarium.