Root feeders without substrate…

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Anyone know if root feeders would survive simply placed between rocks so there roots are exposed and doused with liquid fertiliser? I have placed some in my Bettas tank as shown in the picture out of curiosity not expecting them to survive. I was simply wandering if they can survive by feeding on root tabs in substrate, what is to stop them surviving on liquid fertiliser 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Anyone know if root feeders would survive simply placed between rocks so there roots are exposed and doused with liquid fertiliser? I have placed some in my Bettas tank as shown in the picture out of curiosity not expecting them to survive. I was simply wandering if they can survive by feeding on root tabs in substrate, what is to stop them surviving on liquid fertiliser 🤷🏻‍♂️
what plant is that?
should be fine
 
I mean it’s not just one, but a number of root feeders that I have just lightly wedged between rocks. Curious as to whether they’ll survive with liquid fertiliser or they need to be rooted in substrate
 
Plants take up nutrients via both the roots and the leaves. This applies to terrestrial as well as aquatic plants, but the latter tend to use leaf uptake for more nutrients than terrestrial. One obvious example is nitrogen...terrestrial plants use nitrate taken up via the roots whereas aquatic plants (most of them we keep in aquaria) take up ammonia/ammonium via the leaves. In order for plants to take up most nutrients, certainly7 those taken up by roots, the nutrient must be dissolved into water. Roots cannot take up nutrients from a dry medium.

I do not know to what extent being rooted in a substrate (sand, fine gravel, dirt, etc) differs from not being so rooted if the nutrients are all available in the water, with respect to the plant's uptake of nutrients via the roots. One primary reason for a substrate is to keep the plants anchored; sometimes the constant moving of plants can cause detrimental growth, so this is worth considering.

On a related issue, why would you not have a substrate? This is the most important biological component of an aquarium, as it is the "bed" for all sorts of species of bacteria, some of which cannot live in a filter. The substrate is in a very real sense the bedrock or basis of an aquarium, in more important ways than just being on the bottom.
 
is that a Java fern ? l have several. I’m bad when it comes to fertilizing house & tank plants. I have Javas in sand, gravel & tied to upright vertical poles. All doing ok. Use a liquid tank fertilizer when I remember to.
 
Plants take up nutrients via both the roots and the leaves. This applies to terrestrial as well as aquatic plants, but the latter tend to use leaf uptake for more nutrients than terrestrial. One obvious example is nitrogen...terrestrial plants use nitrate taken up via the roots whereas aquatic plants (most of them we keep in aquaria) take up ammonia/ammonium via the leaves. In order for plants to take up most nutrients, certainly7 those taken up by roots, the nutrient must be dissolved into water. Roots cannot take up nutrients from a dry medium.

I do not know to what extent being rooted in a substrate (sand, fine gravel, dirt, etc) differs from not being so rooted if the nutrients are all available in the water, with respect to the plant's uptake of nutrients via the roots. One primary reason for a substrate is to keep the plants anchored; sometimes the constant moving of plants can cause detrimental growth, so this is worth considering.

On a related issue, why would you not have a substrate? This is the most important biological component of an aquarium, as it is the "bed" for all sorts of species of bacteria, some of which cannot live in a filter. The substrate is in a very real sense the bedrock or basis of an aquarium, in more important ways than just being on the bottom.
Thanks for the info!

I will see how these guys get on!

Regarding the substrate, I do technically have one but it is the large ceramic media that comes with Biorb tanks as opposed to a finer substrate that the roots would normally travel and spread throughout (not sure if you are familiar with this brand.) It doesn’t have the best reputation but has been absolutely perfect for my Betta fish and I have a number of plants attached to rocks that are thriving. The plants that I would normally have planted, I have simply wedged in between a couple bits of the ceramic media
 
Thanks for the info!

I will see how these guys get on!

Regarding the substrate, I do technically have one but it is the large ceramic media that comes with Biorb tanks as opposed to a finer substrate that the roots would normally travel and spread throughout (not sure if you are familiar with this brand.) It doesn’t have the best reputation but has been absolutely perfect for my Betta fish and I have a number of plants attached to rocks that are thriving. The plants that I would normally have planted, I have simply wedged in between a couple bits of the ceramic media

In this situation it is a bit different (the substrate/bacteria aspect). As for the plants, see what happens, that may be OK too.
 
if its java fern java fern isnt really a substrate feeder
 
It is not Java fern…

As said, it is a variety of substrate feeders, the names I don’t have to hand
 

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