Ro Water Or Tap Water
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stang1
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Thanks Alice, might be on the list of things to buy!also i'd look into getting your own RO unit, check out www.osmotics.co.uk (TFF 10% discount) I worked out the prices for our own unit and for buying it from the lfs and the basic 3 stage unit paid for itself in 5 months for water changes on a 30 gallon tank. might save you a bit of money doing it yourself
Its certainly worth investing in your own unit, when i was using R/O water back when i was breeding i once found the R/O water from a certain branch of a large chain of fish stores had 30ppm of nitrate and a fairly high TDS reading, presumably from not replacing the membrane of the unit when it had perished. I always used to test the water before using after a friend with a marine tank experienced a 100% tank kill from using contaminated R/O water from a lfs for a water change.
90% of that is for 4 over-priced zebra plecs...which shouldn't have cost more than £500 total even in todays market. Some sellers are rip off merchants imo.
ive just done a test on my tap water and the nitrates are low at 15 and everything else looks ok
so i dont no wether to either do what was advised and..
when doing water changes do one tap water then one RO
or just start doing water changes using treated tap water
or use minerals ( and read up on what minerals i need to add and how much )
i just want to do whats right
im pleased this post has gone so well, lots of people have learned a lot from it and will not be making the same mistake as i have!!!
so i dont no wether to either do what was advised and..
when doing water changes do one tap water then one RO
or just start doing water changes using treated tap water
or use minerals ( and read up on what minerals i need to add and how much )
i just want to do whats right
im pleased this post has gone so well, lots of people have learned a lot from it and will not be making the same mistake as i have!!!
Miss Wiggle
Practically perfect in every way
ive just done a test on my tap water and the nitrates are low at 15 and everything else looks ok
so i dont no wether to either do what was advised and..
when doing water changes do one tap water then one RO
or just start doing water changes using treated tap water
or use minerals ( and read up on what minerals i need to add and how much )
i just want to do whats right
im pleased this post has gone so well, lots of people have learned a lot from it and will not be making the same mistake as i have!!!
unfortunately no one can make the descision for you. you've all the information you need in this post you have to decide who you think is right.
what i would do to make the descision is to google all your fish, check if they have any specific requirements for pH, hardness etc. Run some tests on your tap water and see if the conditions you have match what your fish like. If they do match then you've no need to spend all that money on using RO when dechlorinated tapwater will do fine. If however your fish like something you don't have then check if using RO can provide them with that and if it can then that's what you should use.
90% of that is for 4 over-priced zebra plecs...which shouldn't have cost more than £500 total even in todays market. Some sellers are rip off merchants imo.
I havent seen zebra plecs for sale in a shop for less than £150 each for years and that was for fish of around an inch long, stangs zebras are a bit bigger than that so £720 for 4 isnt so bad at all. IMO they are over priced for what they are but demand will always keep the prices up as is the same with all sought after attractively marked fish. Just look at the zebra shovelnose catfish Brachyplatystoma tigrinum, here you wont get change from £300 for a tiny specimin with a huge chance of dying before it reaches a foot while in South America where they catch them you see adults with a UK value of £700 upwards on fish stalls in the market for a few pence!! Asian arowanas are another example of how demand makes a fish more expensive than it should be, they are all captive bred on large farms and produced by the thousand but even a relatively common strain will set you back more than £300 for a 6" fish which probably cost no more than £20 to raise and ship into the coutry
stang1
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I think your comment is a little unfair to be honest.
90% of that is for 4 over-priced zebra plecs...which shouldn't have cost more than £500 total even in todays market. Some sellers are rip off merchants imo.
The chap was selling them on e-bay with no reserve, so it's hardly his fault that they went for so much money. I'm sure anyone would do the same when selling an item.
There was a great deal of interest and we only won the bid by an extra £5, so we weren't the only ones prepared to pay so much money.
Many people may think we are foolish but it's our choice what we spend our money on. Fishkeeping is our hobby, we don't drink, smoke or do drugs, allowing us to spend money on what we enjoy.
If nothing comes of it and they don't breed, then that's the way it is but you have to take chances now and again. If they do breed, then it's a bonus! We have been through far too much to have any regrets, it doesn't get you anywhere.
Maybe we did pay over the odds but we're happy with them and that's all that matters!
Miss Wiggle
Practically perfect in every way
Maybe we did pay over the odds but we're happy with them and that's all that matters!
exactly! it's your money and your life
if i could afford it i'd have some in a shot!
stang1
A smile costs nothing :)
I think your comment is a little unfair to be honest.
90% of that is for 4 over-priced zebra plecs...which shouldn't have cost more than £500 total even in todays market. Some sellers are rip off merchants imo.
The chap was selling them on e-bay with no reserve, so it's hardly his fault that they went for so much money. I'm sure anyone would do the same when selling an item.
There was a great deal of interest and we only won the bid by an extra £5, so we weren't the only ones prepared to pay so much money.
Many people may think we are foolish but it's our choice what we spend our money on. Fishkeeping is our hobby, we don't drink, smoke or do drugs, allowing us to spend money on what we enjoy.
If nothing comes of it and they don't breed, then that's the way it is but you have to take chances now and again. If they do breed, then it's a bonus! We have been through far too much to have any regrets, it doesn't get you anywhere.
Maybe we did pay over the odds but we're happy with them and that's all that matters!
Just noticed your post CFC and thankyou.
I don't mean to come off as snappy but I feel a bit peeved at having to justify myself.
stang1
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Thanks Alice!Maybe we did pay over the odds but we're happy with them and that's all that matters!
exactly! it's your money and your life
if i could afford it i'd have some in a shot!
I think your comment is a little unfair to be honest.
90% of that is for 4 over-priced zebra plecs...which shouldn't have cost more than £500 total even in todays market. Some sellers are rip off merchants imo.
The chap was selling them on e-bay with no reserve, so it's hardly his fault that they went for so much money. I'm sure anyone would do the same when selling an item.
There was a great deal of interest and we only won the bid by an extra £5, so we weren't the only ones prepared to pay so much money.
Many people may think we are foolish but it's our choice what we spend our money on. Fishkeeping is our hobby, we don't drink, smoke or do drugs, allowing us to spend money on what we enjoy.
If nothing comes of it and they don't breed, then that's the way it is but you have to take chances now and again. If they do breed, then it's a bonus! We have been through far too much to have any regrets, it doesn't get you anywhere.
Maybe we did pay over the odds but we're happy with them and that's all that matters!
Just noticed your post CFC and thankyou.
I don't mean to come off as snappy but I feel a bit peeved at having to justify myself.
I don't think there's any need to be peeved. It's simply my informed opinion and I think if you state the price you paid on a public forum then people are allowed to have an opinion on it. If you don't want people to comment on it, then don't mention it. And I certainly at no point requested that you justify yourself, as you're entitled as anyone to spend your money on what you like. If you're happy with your purchase then that's fine...but that doesn't detract from my opinion that you could have sourced them considerably cheaper than the total price you paid.
They weren't £150 for years...there has never been a 'fixed' price and you can't argue shop prices with private prices which is how Stang1 aquired hers. While I would agree £150 maybe the average price, it is an average and so there are some still available cheaper than that. It just requires someone to keep their eyes open and do a little bit of searching.
stang1
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I don't understand why people feel the need to comment on how much I paid. Of course people are entitled to an opinion but to make the seller out to be a rip-off merchant was uncalled for.
As for finding them cheaper, we have been looking for a long time and had no joy. Therefore, when we did have the opportunity to buy some, we snapped them up.
As for finding them cheaper, we have been looking for a long time and had no joy. Therefore, when we did have the opportunity to buy some, we snapped them up.
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