Pectoral Fin Not Flapping....

[J4G3D]

My male dwarf gourami seems like hes in abit of trouble.

i right pectoral fin is fine but his left is not flapping at all

Hes always in hiding (since i added him 1 week ago) and its only today ive noticed this.

I noticed the small female nipped him from behind and he swam off fast flapping both pectoral fins

But he seems to just want to rest at the bottom of the tank hiding and only flap his right pectoral fin. The other side looks stuck (but obviously it isnt as he uses it to get away)

By the way hes not come up to eat not even once for a whole week. No food ever reaches the bottom where hes at because all my other fish eat everything before it drops.

Ideas??

 

[betta fish]

Your tank sounds over stocked to me, the sharks and angels will already out grow the tank and the barbs and sharks should be kept in bigger groups to bring down the aggression but there is already too many fish in there, the crabs will need a seperate land area to get out of the water as they are not truly fully aquatic too. I'm not sure what is wrong with your gourami but it may be a water quality issue or an injury, have you tested the water recently? I would think about rehoming some of the fish.

 

[WILDER]

Need to look at your water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

The fish sounds like it might have a bacterial infection if it's resting alot.

Also fish will pick on sick fish.

Does he look bloated or thin.
Does he look pale or darker in colour.
Is he resting to oneside.
Any red streaking or red sores on his body.
Is he acting listless and lethagic.

Sticky mucas fins can be bacterial, bad water quality, ph, parasites.

 

[J4G3D]

Does he look bloated or thin. No
Does he look pale or darker in colour. No, well hard to tell as hes never really come out from his cave.
Is he resting to oneside. Resting his caudal fin SLIGHTLY on the gravel.(so backwards a tad)
Any red streaking or red sores on his body. No (he naturally has red streaks as hes the banded DG)
Is he acting listless and lethagic. Yes since day 1 of introducing him, stays at the bottom hiding. No other fish are picking on him at all though.

Water quality is fine

Tank is not overstocked at the moment because there all small but as they grow yes it will be overstocked. Overstocking is something im working on to get my setup right. That im aware of its not majorly overstocked if taking there adult size into consideration. At the moment my main concern is with the DG in question, so please help with that issue.

Ive got back in from work 10 mins ago and hes flapping both pectoral fins now, But still resting at the bottom (not touching the gravel) 10 mins later i checked again and hes not flapping any pectoral fins at all but hes underneath a rock with his head touching the top of the rock(still close to the gravel about 2 inches away) Swimming in circles when he tries to swim off somewhere.

I keep checking since it seems he can use both pectoral fins but most of the time only the right side is working. Its on and off.

 

[J4G3D]

Update:

he seems to be floating at the top now. Still not using his left pectoral fin so it looks like hes turning onto his side until he straightens hiself out again..

Any thoughts people? so i can take some action in time!

 

[WILDER]

I would issolate him and use a bacterial med. Not melafix. An internal bacteria med.

Sadly swimming in circles can also mean the fish is dying.

Here some info for you.


The third type of infection produced by Aeromonas is by no means the least. This form is often the most virulent (potent) and can be rapidly fatal. This insidious form does not produce any noticeable external ulcers. The most notable feature is a behavioral change in which the infected fish generally become listless and lethargic. Some fish may lose color or appear darker. The fish do not feed, frequently seem off balance and may sink to the bottom laying on their sides. The course of the disease is rapid, and by the time the behavioral changes are noticed, the entire population of a tank may succumb, sometimes in a day or so. This is an internal infection, with the bacteria being found in the kidneys and blood of these fish. The bacteria produce potent toxins that account for the severity of the disease.<

 

[J4G3D]

I would issolate him and use a bacterial med. Not melafix. An internal bacteria med.

Sadly swimming in circles can also mean the fish is dying.

Here some info for you.


The third type of infection produced by Aeromonas is by no means the least. This form is often the most virulent (potent) and can be rapidly fatal. This insidious form does not produce any noticeable external ulcers. The most notable feature is a behavioral change in which the infected fish generally become listless and lethargic. Some fish may lose color or appear darker. The fish do not feed, frequently seem off balance and may sink to the bottom laying on their sides. The course of the disease is rapid, and by the time the behavioral changes are noticed, the entire population of a tank may succumb, sometimes in a day or so. This is an internal infection, with the bacteria being found in the kidneys and blood of these fish. The bacteria produce potent toxins that account for the severity of the disease.<

Got no way to isolate him

Now hes been at the top for 10 mins or so EVERY fish is picking on him i mean from angels and dg's to gold barbs constantly nipping his tail. I think they can spot hes in trouble and they want a peice of him. I got him from lfs less then a week ago. Shall i take it back there right now and get them to deal with him?

 

[WILDER]

Issolate him immediately. Even if it's in a container at the top of the tank.
Once bacterial infections advance there hard to cure.

If you take him to the lfs they will probably just put him down.
He sounds in bad shape to me.
But if they were not picking on him you could of tryed and saved him by using a bacterial med.

 

[J4G3D]

Issolate him immediately. Even if it's in a container at the top of the tank.
Once bacterial infections advance there hard to cure.

If you take him to the lfs they will probably just put him down.
He sounds in bad shape to me.
But if they were not picking on him you could of tryed and saved him by using a bacterial med.

Im pretty sure the lfs i use quarantine infected fish and cure them before putting them down. Ive put him into a bag and left it sitting in the top of the tank so it keeps at normal temp. Shall i leave him in this bag at the top and try a medication then? if so how much med would i need to use considering hes in a small bag and not a tank....

And shall i treat the whole tank just incase??

 

[WILDER]

When using meds you need aeration. As meds reduce 02 in the water.
It's up to you if you medicate the whole tank.

A container will be better than a bag, as the bag will lose air.

What's your location.

 

[J4G3D]

When using meds you need aeration. As meds reduce 02 in the water.
It's up to you if you medicate the whole tank.

A container will be better than a bag, as the bag will lose air.

What's your location.

I can leave the bag open at the top and jam it in the sliding glass so it dont sink.

Im in bedfordshire

So would you recommend interpet internal bacteria med? would that do the job? I asked about treating the whole tank as i wouldnt want any parasites to attack any other fishes. Just dont want to harm any by using the med.

 

[WILDER]

Anti internal bacteria med by interpet only good on mild bacteria infections.
UK lfs med don't have antibiotics in them.
There only one med I know of that's flubenol by jbl. Most lfs don't sell it. But it wipes the beneifical bacteria out in the filter.

It dosn't sound like a parasite to me, it sounds bacterial.

I would steralise a ice cream box, or a tupper ware box, or sandwich box. He will be better off in a container than a bag.


You could add the anti internal bacteria med by interpet to the main tank.

 

[J4G3D]

Anti internal bacteria med by interpet only good on mild bacteria infections.
UK lfs med don't have antibiotics in them.
There only one med I know of that's flubenol by jbl. Most lfs don't sell it. But it wipes the beneifical bacteria out in the filter.

It dosn't sound like a parasite to me, it sounds bacterial.

I would steralise a ice cream box, or a tupper ware box, or sandwich box. He will be better off in a container than a bag.


You could add the anti internal bacteria med by interpet to the main tank.

Will the box's water temp be ok if its half submerged into the main tanks water? Im guessing it would only drop 1c if that?

Right so i need to search for a good med...hmm where to start. If i cant get flubonal then what do i do?

By the way also i can notice his gills are abit, how to explain... eroded? not perfect shape..

As its been 4 days since i bought him from lfs then surely i should offload him back into there hands? As it would of had this bacterial infection with them and not caught in my tank.

 

[J4G3D]

Bought
Salt
swimbladder treatment
internal bacteria treatment

Just treated whole tank with the internal bacteria treatment, and also a tad in the isolated DG carton.

Will see how it goes.

Just tried to feed the DG and he takes the odd 1 but spits out what looks like a small white cloudy substance. Even when i gave him a bloodworm, a tiny bit of white cloudy substance comes out when he eats it, although not sure if its from his mouth or rear.

 

[J4G3D]

I cant beleive its had 75 views but only 1 person is willing to help? (thanks by the way wilder)