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[DiscusKeeper403]

point and shoot but very close to the slr's

I would'nt go that far

I meant some of the features not quality but not many point and shoots can come that close for £80

Nice shots but you need to consider getting your Discus some friends.

not at all he has got 2 friends but he is very dominant for a discuss and too aggressive so why risk the balance of the tank to buy fish for him to attack, and probably then cause disease through stress ..... not very clever. but ta anyway

There is always a dominant fish. Three Discus is too small a group. If you don't want to risk stress and disease then getting him tank mates is your best option, not having them is the not clever part. Seems like you probably won't take my advice anyways and will probably end up learning the hard way. And it's Discus not discuss.

why rock the boat, I was asking for advice on photography not fish keeping. keep on subject and troll/flame some else's thread please

Definitley neither rocking the boat nor flaming. Infact it seems more like you were the one lashing out at me when I was trying to give friendly advice. Seems like you are going to learn the hard way and that's up to you. All I am going to say is that Discus need to be kept in groups of 5 minimum to spread agression and shouldn't be kept with fish like silver dollars. I will leave it at that, though I am sure some other Discus keepers may want to speak up.

Best of luck,

DL

 

[raptorrex]

point and shoot but very close to the slr's

I would'nt go that far

as the quality of, most DSLR's is not yet up to that of good quality compact cameras of 25 years ago, "close to DSLR" is good enough for most. i know people spend a lot on them, but there you go!

since the days of Fox Talbert, expensive gear, has never guaranteed "quality" pictures. ifs often more sensible to learn the camera you have. practice, try new things. remember, there is nothing a DSLR can do, that a 100 year old manual camera cant. (ok auto focus). learning the "basics" of photography, is often a good start. and "basics" does not mean "what program" do i use to do this, though that is how thing are now. too many have too little "basic" photographic knowledge. learning how the setting of the aperture and shutter relate, both for exposure, and with differing lens lengths. will improve your pictures far more than spending £1000 on a camera. conversely, learning some basics, will help you get the most from your DSLR, if you wish to go that way.

buy a camera, any camera. practice with it, then practice again. keep going till you get board with what your camera can do. then move a stage up with your purchase, and start the whole thing again. even better, find a local course on Photography. you will be surprised what you can do, with any camera. such is the benefit of a good grounding in the basics of the art. even better, you may find you are happy with the gear you have, without going to a DSLR. that cost saving alone, is well worth it.

@mrbudgie, dont worry guy. DiscusLova, does what it says on the box. i know his comments hit a nerve, but, i feel, he was looking out for the fish, not looking to have a pop at you!

 

[gaz gun man]

point and shoot but very close to the slr's

I would'nt go that far

as the quality of, most DSLR's is not yet up to that of good quality compact cameras of 25 years ago, "close to DSLR" is good enough for most. i know people spend a lot on them, but there you go!

since the days of Fox Talbert, expensive gear, has never guaranteed "quality" pictures. ifs often more sensible to learn the camera you have. practice, try new things. remember, there is nothing a DSLR can do, that a 100 year old manual camera cant. (ok auto focus). learning the "basics" of photography, is often a good start. and "basics" does not mean "what program" do i use to do this, though that is how thing are now. too many have too little "basic" photographic knowledge. learning how the setting of the aperture and shutter relate, both for exposure, and with differing lens lengths. will improve your pictures far more than spending £1000 on a camera. conversely, learning some basics, will help you get the most from your DSLR, if you wish to go that way.

buy a camera, any camera. practice with it, then practice again. keep going till you get board with what your camera can do. then move a stage up with your purchase, and start the whole thing again. even better, find a local course on Photography. you will be surprised what you can do, with any camera. such is the benefit of a good grounding in the basics of the art. even better, you may find you are happy with the gear you have, without going to a DSLR. that cost saving alone, is well worth it.

@mrbudgie, dont worry guy. DiscusLova, does what it says on the box. i know his comments hit a nerve, but, i feel, he was looking out for the fish, not looking to have a pop at you!

what? why are you comparing TODAYS DSLR's with compacts of 25 YEARS ago?

You know I meant TODAYS DSLR'S and TODAYS compact cameras.
Are you really saying that, two current digital cameras, one a DSLR and the other a compact are'nt a thousand miles apart in terms of image quality and performance?

You always seem to split hairs with me on threads like this, and always seem to have a dig at the more expensive gear. You jealous or something?
True, one can have all the gear and no idea, I wont argue that without knowledge you wont get the most from your camera, regardless of its spec, but to seriously suggest compacts and DSLR's are cut from the same stone is ludicrous at best. Your drivel is out-dated at the best of times.

To stop this thread going off topic any more than it already has done, I'm not going to reply to any response you may, or may not have. If you want to, PM me.

To the OP, sorry mate for taking this off topic. I know you asked for any tips, and TBH I think your pics are pretty good already, is there something specific you dont like with the images? Photography is one of my other hobbies, so I'll help where I can.

 

[raptorrex]

[quote name='gaz gun man' date='Jun 6 2009, 04:36 PM' post='2411275'


what? why are you comparing TODAYS DSLR's with compacts of 25 YEARS ago?

Your drivel is out-dated at the best of times.
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as i said all along, practice, not expensive gear, is the secret to good pictures. and that was the advice i offered.
and yes, at a set focal length, an AF35ML from 1985 will wipe the floor with all but the 18-24mp cameras that are out there today, it simply has more resolution. as for being out of date. I at least have experience of using both types of camera, in anger, though granted, i spent more time with film. whether you would notice the difference in "ordinary use", is problematic. but the same is true of the difference between a "good" compact Digi, and a DSLR.(the difference is there, but only at the extereams).

 

[mrbudgie]

point and shoot but very close to the slr's

I would'nt go that far

I meant some of the features not quality but not many point and shoots can come that close for £80

Nice shots but you need to consider getting your Discus some friends.

not at all he has got 2 friends but he is very dominant for a discuss and too aggressive so why risk the balance of the tank to buy fish for him to attack, and probably then cause disease through stress ..... not very clever. but ta anyway

There is always a dominant fish. Three Discus is too small a group. If you don't want to risk stress and disease then getting him tank mates is your best option, not having them is the not clever part. Seems like you probably won't take my advice anyways and will probably end up learning the hard way. And it's Discus not discuss.

why rock the boat, I was asking for advice on photography not fish keeping. keep on subject and troll/flame some else's thread please

Definitley neither rocking the boat nor flaming. Infact it seems more like you were the one lashing out at me when I was trying to give friendly advice. Seems like you are going to learn the hard way and that's up to you. All I am going to say is that Discus need to be kept in groups of 5 minimum to spread agression and shouldn't be kept with fish like silver dollars. I will leave it at that, though I am sure some other Discus keepers may want to speak up.

Best of luck,

DL

what planet are you on... the fish are fine... but if your ever in town come round and i'll stick you in the stank to keep the disus company.....

point and shoot but very close to the slr's

I would'nt go that far

as the quality of, most DSLR's is not yet up to that of good quality compact cameras of 25 years ago, "close to DSLR" is good enough for most. i know people spend a lot on them, but there you go!

since the days of Fox Talbert, expensive gear, has never guaranteed "quality" pictures. ifs often more sensible to learn the camera you have. practice, try new things. remember, there is nothing a DSLR can do, that a 100 year old manual camera cant. (ok auto focus). learning the "basics" of photography, is often a good start. and "basics" does not mean "what program" do i use to do this, though that is how thing are now. too many have too little "basic" photographic knowledge. learning how the setting of the aperture and shutter relate, both for exposure, and with differing lens lengths. will improve your pictures far more than spending £1000 on a camera. conversely, learning some basics, will help you get the most from your DSLR, if you wish to go that way.

buy a camera, any camera. practice with it, then practice again. keep going till you get board with what your camera can do. then move a stage up with your purchase, and start the whole thing again. even better, find a local course on Photography. you will be surprised what you can do, with any camera. such is the benefit of a good grounding in the basics of the art. even better, you may find you are happy with the gear you have, without going to a DSLR. that cost saving alone, is well worth it.

@mrbudgie, dont worry guy. DiscusLova, does what it says on the box. i know his comments hit a nerve, but, i feel, he was looking out for the fish, not looking to have a pop at you!

He should stay in the Box Hahaha..... Didnt hit a nerve though just dont need some one telling me how to look after fish when I know what I am Doing. And i'll keep trying till I get it right.

point and shoot but very close to the slr's

I would'nt go that far

as the quality of, most DSLR's is not yet up to that of good quality compact cameras of 25 years ago, "close to DSLR" is good enough for most. i know people spend a lot on them, but there you go!

since the days of Fox Talbert, expensive gear, has never guaranteed "quality" pictures. ifs often more sensible to learn the camera you have. practice, try new things. remember, there is nothing a DSLR can do, that a 100 year old manual camera cant. (ok auto focus). learning the "basics" of photography, is often a good start. and "basics" does not mean "what program" do i use to do this, though that is how thing are now. too many have too little "basic" photographic knowledge. learning how the setting of the aperture and shutter relate, both for exposure, and with differing lens lengths. will improve your pictures far more than spending £1000 on a camera. conversely, learning some basics, will help you get the most from your DSLR, if you wish to go that way.

buy a camera, any camera. practice with it, then practice again. keep going till you get board with what your camera can do. then move a stage up with your purchase, and start the whole thing again. even better, find a local course on Photography. you will be surprised what you can do, with any camera. such is the benefit of a good grounding in the basics of the art. even better, you may find you are happy with the gear you have, without going to a DSLR. that cost saving alone, is well worth it.

@mrbudgie, dont worry guy. DiscusLova, does what it says on the box. i know his comments hit a nerve, but, i feel, he was looking out for the fish, not looking to have a pop at you!

what? why are you comparing TODAYS DSLR's with compacts of 25 YEARS ago?

You know I meant TODAYS DSLR'S and TODAYS compact cameras.
Are you really saying that, two current digital cameras, one a DSLR and the other a compact are'nt a thousand miles apart in terms of image quality and performance?

You always seem to split hairs with me on threads like this, and always seem to have a dig at the more expensive gear. You jealous or something?
True, one can have all the gear and no idea, I wont argue that without knowledge you wont get the most from your camera, regardless of its spec, but to seriously suggest compacts and DSLR's are cut from the same stone is ludicrous at best. Your drivel is out-dated at the best of times.

To stop this thread going off topic any more than it already has done, I'm not going to reply to any response you may, or may not have. If you want to, PM me.

To the OP, sorry mate for taking this off topic. I know you asked for any tips, and TBH I think your pics are pretty good already, is there something specific you dont like with the images? Photography is one of my other hobbies, so I'll help where I can.

just trying to get slightly more sharper details when the pictures are zoomed in ect... but I dont understand alot of the settings and jargon as I have never had a digi cam before... Normally just use my N95 but thought I would get a cam as got a little one due on tuesday lol

 

[gaz gun man]

just trying to get slightly more sharper details when the pictures are zoomed in ect... but I dont understand alot of the settings and jargon as I have never had a digi cam before... Normally just use my N95 but thought I would get a cam as got a little one due on tuesday lol

with all but the most expensive zoom lenses, zooming in decreases the aperture (imagine the pupil of an eye) the higher the number, the smaller the pupil, the more light thats needed to expose the image.

The only way for a camera to get more light is to hold the shutter open for longer, though unless the subject and camera are perfectly still, you will get blur (as you are getting)

The other way is to increase ISO, but I guess you are using your camera in automatic mode? Which probably has auto ISO turned on so its increasing it for you anyway.

EDIT: oh I meant to say - good luck on Tuesday, hope it all goes smoothly for you all

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

what planet are you on... the fish are fine... but if your ever in town come round and i'll stick you in the stank to keep the disus company.....

And you have the nerve to tell me not to rock the boat?

 

[CLAYMICHAEL]

Great pictures

 

[oliesminis]

add reply, my advice.

practise

and make the picturees a bit smaller before you upload them.

 

[mrbudgie]

just trying to get slightly more sharper details when the pictures are zoomed in ect... but I dont understand alot of the settings and jargon as I have never had a digi cam before... Normally just use my N95 but thought I would get a cam as got a little one due on tuesday lol

with all but the most expensive zoom lenses, zooming in decreases the aperture (imagine the pupil of an eye) the higher the number, the smaller the pupil, the more light thats needed to expose the image.

The only way for a camera to get more light is to hold the shutter open for longer, though unless the subject and camera are perfectly still, you will get blur (as you are getting)

The other way is to increase ISO, but I guess you are using your camera in automatic mode? Which probably has auto ISO turned on so its increasing it for you anyway.

EDIT: oh I meant to say - good luck on Tuesday, hope it all goes smoothly for you all

cheers dude, PS had a little girl called faith

what planet are you on... the fish are fine... but if your ever in town come round and i'll stick you in the stank to keep the disus company.....

And you have the nerve to tell me not to rock the boat?

there was no nerve in it.......

Great pictures

cheers bud

add reply, my advice.

practise

and make the picturees a bit smaller before you upload them.

will do ..... keep trying i'll get it right eventually

 

[Carter]

The best advice, besides practice is, not to use a flash, have a dark background and do not use the zoom that much, in fact, try not to use it at all as it will lower the quality of you pic. The more zoom, the more sensitive it will be to movement and such like that.

A message to all. If you are going to take a pic of your tank and you want it to look amazing, do it at night when you have your tank lights on. Turn off all the lights in that room besides the one of you tank, and start shooting. Use as little zoom as possible, and try not to take photo's directly of you gravel and things that might reflect the light, such as the surface of the water. Your camera will there fore not have to autofocus as much and the colour transformation that goes on in that little thing will not be as huge.

If you are finding that your photo's are becoming all blurry, rest it on something to steady it. Use a delayed capture of about 10sec and away you go.

I hope this helps you all out.

it works for me, and i get some amazing photo's of my tank...