New 10 Gal Tank

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I'm almost all set up now. I am still considering plants and fish but I have just started the Nitrogen cycle so I have a little time :)

(I have black glass sand and all plastic plants at the moment but I'm sure they will be ok to do the fishless cycle.)

I will add some photo's soon :D

I may change the substrate I'm not sure.
 
My Tank.
First look Photos :D
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Some of the bits I had form last time my tank was set up.

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I got some new bits today :)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d143/ebony951/My%20Fish%20and%20Tanks/Fishtank%20Old/3GlassSand3kbags.jpg/img] The Black Glass Sand x2, 3kg bags I think I may have used to much but at least I can take some back out.

[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d143/ebony951/My%20Fish%20and%20Tanks/Fishtank%20Old/4EmptyTankFront.jpg Sorting out the decoration locations.

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Everything in place now we just need to add the water...

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Water added Nitrogen cycle started.

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Daylight Bulb test.

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Nightlight Bulb test.
 
I added Ammonia to the water and tested water Ammonia levels 20 mins later it had risen from 0 to 2mg/L.

I will wait until it drops back down to 0 before adding more but I may also need to get different test kits as the readings are all mg/L and not ppm. :unsure:
 
looks nice and simple, what fish are you going to get ?

I'm not sure yet, I had hoped to get some BNs and some Guppys or Cockatoo Dwarf Cichlids but I've been told that it is to small for BNs :( I'll need to do some more research but at least I have time to do the legwork :D

Any suggestions are welcome. I'm hoping to get some colourful and interesting fish.
I like odd looking fish as well. :lol:
 
looks nice and simple, what fish are you going to get ?

I'm not sure yet, I had hoped to get some BNs and some Guppys or Cockatoo Dwarf Cichlids but I've been told that it is to small for BNs :( I'll need to do some more research but at least I have time to do the legwork :D

Any suggestions are welcome. I'm hoping to get some colourful and interesting fish.
I like odd looking fish as well. :lol:

im sure you could have 1 BN but in a 10 gallon you would be limited to 12-14 neon tetra size fish so a BN is equivalent to like 3 of them :p
guppies are a great idea they are colorful and easy to keep. i would start of with 2-4 hardy fish like pepper corys, or glowlight tetras. oh and dwarf gouramis are cool but its better to have a bigger tank for them and there not good for starting off with :p
 
im sure you could have 1 BN but in a 10 gallon you would be limited to 12-14 neon tetra size fish so a BN is equivalent to like 3 of them :p
guppies are a great idea they are colorful and easy to keep. i would start of with 2-4 hardy fish like pepper corys, or glowlight tetras. oh and are cool but its better to have a bigger tank for them and there not good for starting off with :p

Cool. Just wondering How would Cockatoo Dwarf Cichlids get on with Guppys? :unsure:
All my books say they get on ok with other fish as long as they are all about the same size and they can go in a 50L tank which is about what mine holds.
I measured it with my sewing tape measure today and it's about 16" Length, 14" Depth, 13" High. :good:

There are so many wonderful fish and I want them all so I don't mind what ones I get as long as they stay happy and healthy in their new home :D
 
well the litre can be different to the other dimensions coz you have to think about all the scenery taking up room and the sand and how thick the glass is, dwarf gouramis arnt the friendliest of fish but they can get along fine with most fish. my advise is if you want all the fish wait till you have more experience then get a big tank xD i have a 90 litre atm but its still not big enough for my needs. unfortunately a bigger tank wouldnt fit in my bedroom lol
 
well the litre can be different to the other dimensions coz you have to think about all the scenery taking up room and the sand and how thick the glass is, dwarf gouramis arnt the friendliest of fish but they can get along fine with most fish. my advise is if you want all the fish wait till you have more experience then get a big tank xD i have a 90 litre atm but its still not big enough for my needs. unfortunately a bigger tank wouldnt fit in my bedroom lol

I know what you mean, I think I may be able go a little bigger but not much. (Studio flat.) For all the fish I want I'd need to by the London Aquarium to fit them all in. :lol:

One of the options would be a species tank. I've been looking at Dwarf Puffers (Carinotetradon Travancoricus.) They get to 3cms in size but I'd need to get some plants in for them :D

If I go for a community it will be small fish like Guppys and tetras and maybe a pair of Cockatoo Dwarf Cichlids, (Apistogramma Cacatuoides.) Looking them up it says they are ok with other fish that can't eat them. But they would be the largest fish I could have in the community with the Male getting to 7cm and the female 2.5cm.
 
well the litre can be different to the other dimensions coz you have to think about all the scenery taking up room and the sand and how thick the glass is, dwarf gouramis arnt the friendliest of fish but they can get along fine with most fish. my advise is if you want all the fish wait till you have more experience then get a big tank xD i have a 90 litre atm but its still not big enough for my needs. unfortunately a bigger tank wouldnt fit in my bedroom lol

I know what you mean, I think I may be able go a little bigger but not much. (Studio flat.) For all the fish I want I'd need to by the London Aquarium to fit them all in. :lol:

One of the options would be a species tank. I've been looking at Dwarf Puffers (Carinotetradon Travancoricus.) They get to 3cms in size but I'd need to get some plants in for them :D

If I go for a community it will be small fish like Guppys and tetras and maybe a pair of Cockatoo Dwarf Cichlids, (Apistogramma Cacatuoides.) Looking them up it says they are ok with other fish that can't eat them. But they would be the largest fish I could have in the community with the Male getting to 7cm and the female 2.5cm.

you gotta be careful with cichlids they are usualy for species tanks but some like kribs are community fish. take a look at my brothers tank here he ahs some nice cichlids

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/324318-mbuna-malawai-tank/page__p__2692706__fromsearch__1&#entry2692706

btw above were i siad dwarf gouramis i meant dwarf cichlids xD
 
you gotta be careful with cichlids they are usualy for species tanks but some like kribs are community fish. take a look at my brothers tank here he ahs some nice cichlids

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/324318-mbuna-malawai-tank/page__p__2692706__fromsearch__1&#entry2692706

btw above were i siad dwarf gouramis i meant dwarf cichlids xD

Ah I had got a little confused about the gouramis. :)

Your brothers fish are cute and lovely colours. :nod:

I looked up the Cockatoo Dwarf and it said the wont hurt other fish but they may chase them. The females need a territory of 30cm each.

I may still go for something else as I'm still looking at fish.
The only thing that worries me about Guppies is if I end up with more than I can handle as they bread faster than a Tribble in a bag of grain. :lol:
 
I would disagree and say that a BN is too big for that size tank, a BN will equate more than 3 neon tetras. They are much bigger and create much more waste than any tetra ever will. Also when people start talking about taking into account how many liters in the tank are off set against decor forget it, you have a 60 liter tank stock accordingly. As long as you dont get fish that will get so big it becomes an issue which should be avoided.

Cockatoo cichlids are a type of family called apistograma, there are loads of species in this family in the hobby now with quite a few becoming readily available. Now even though they are all dwarfs some stay smaller than others. Apsitogramma Panduro is one of the smaller ones and is a stunning fish for a small tank like this the male is a steel neon blue and the female has panda markings in black and yellow thats the species I would go for in a tank like that :) Apistos are best kept in trios with 1 male to 2 females, in this kind of scenario the females would be busy tending to eggs and fry and keeping a nest to interfere with each other.

With dwarf cichlids in that size tank I would avoid getting any bottom dwellers and just give them the bottom layer to themselves. Guppies might be okay though it will depend on the individual apistos as to what happens but because the guppies stay high up you might be okay. Tetras would be really good and a school of rummy nose tetras would look fantastic :) An other option that would work pretty nice would be marbled hatchet fish which stay at the surface all the time and are little triangular schooling fish. Having these schooling fish will also increase your apistos confidence as when they can see smaller fish in upper water it tells them that the area is safe and there are no predators, without the smaller schooling fish apistos and other dwarf cichlids can be very shy and hide in caves all the time because there are no signals that there are no predators in the water.

So that said the stocking list I would consider would be

3 Apistograma Panduro (1M 2F)
10 Marbled Hatchets or 10 Rummy Nose Tetras (or similar small tetra)
5 Cherry shrimp (maybe, something for you to think about the cichlids may eat them but there is a good chance they wont)

The reason I have said 1 school of 10 is to encourage more natural behavior, in bigger schools the fish will be happier and give off a better schooling look to the tank. Although you could go for 5 of each as an other option but its upto you really. The above list goes beyond the inch per gallon rule but IMO that rule is balls the small schooling fish wont produce 10 inches of waste if you see what I mean the shrimp create next to nothing and the majority of the filter colony will be supporting the apistos.

Dont be put off cichlids though, there is a lot of confusion about them. There are two types, african and american. Most african need a species aquarium but most of the smaller american ones can be mixed in some kind of community set up with some careful consideration.

Hope thats helped

Wills
 

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