gixer
Fish Addict
not everyone can get big fancy tanks...
thats very true. thats why people who cant afford big tanks stick with fish that dont need a large tank...
well they should anyway.. orobviously not

not everyone can get big fancy tanks...
If MrMashashin does what he says he's going to do - keeps the fish until they have outgrown the home that he can afford to give them, then why should he be denied the enjoyment and pleasure of having the fish that he chooses. He's not introducing them to an environment that is not proper for them (IE - living with species that aren't compatible...) All he's merely doing is keeping them in a small tank until they're a larger size, at which point he has a home lined up for them.thats very true. thats why people who cant afford big tanks stick with fish that dont need a large tank...
well they should anyway.. orobviously not
nicely put..semper fi said:that is not the question at hand at the moment.
well you would say that
75 Gallon Perfecto, 2 Aquaclear 500
1 - Common Pleco
3 - Eels (1 Asian Spiny, 2 Fire)
2 - Synodontis Batinsoda
1 - Red Zebra (Pseudotropheus estherae)
2 - Electric Yellow (Labidochromis caeruleus)
2 - Electric White (Labidochromis caeruleus)
1 - Powder Blue (Pseudotropheus socolofi)
1 - Blue Dolphin (Cyrtocara moorii)
1 - Zebra Obliquden (Astatotilapia latifasciata)
2 - Demasoni (Pseudotropheus demasoni)
1 - Kenyi (Pseudotropheus lombardoi)
2 - Livingstoni (Nimbochromis livingstonii)
1 - Cobalt Blue (Metriaclima callainos)
2 - Electric Blue Johanni (Melanochromis johanni)
2 - Bumble Bee (Pseudothropheus crabro)
2 - Red Top Hongi
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only messing with you...
i'll keep my mouh shut then....big problems in future would be my guess though,,,but thats not the tank in question.Nix said:well you would say that
75 Gallon Perfecto, 2 Aquaclear 500
1 - Common Pleco
3 - Eels (1 Asian Spiny, 2 Fire)
2 - Synodontis Batinsoda
1 - Red Zebra (Pseudotropheus estherae)
2 - Electric Yellow (Labidochromis caeruleus)
2 - Electric White (Labidochromis caeruleus)
1 - Powder Blue (Pseudotropheus socolofi)
1 - Blue Dolphin (Cyrtocara moorii)
1 - Zebra Obliquden (Astatotilapia latifasciata)
2 - Demasoni (Pseudotropheus demasoni)
1 - Kenyi (Pseudotropheus lombardoi)
2 - Livingstoni (Nimbochromis livingstonii)
1 - Cobalt Blue (Metriaclima callainos)
2 - Electric Blue Johanni (Melanochromis johanni)
2 - Bumble Bee (Pseudothropheus crabro)
2 - Red Top Hongi
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only messing with you...
It looks good to me
Semper,semper fi said:keep it civilized gixer. she is not asking for opinions on her tank! that is not the question at hand at the moment.
the problem with it becca is his choice of fish. convicts are egglayers. can have spawns of 200+ fry. convicts are also prolific breeders. they can have spawns about every 6 weeks. they are also one of the easiest fish to breed. due to these factors, they are very common in the trade. usually lfs will not take convicts. quite different from an african mouthbrooder that will have about 10-15 fry at a time. now take that pair of convicts, they spawn every 6 weeks. meanwhile if you cannot get rid of the fry they will mature and spawn. without the means to provide adequate space you have all this happening in a 29 gallon tank.
i have two pair of convicts. about 20 of the fry i may be able to sell to the lfs for about .25 cents apeice. and they do have to be an inch or better to do that. i use the fry for feeders for my new world cichlids.
convicts are not called water bunnies for no reason.
lol - all very good points.semper fi said:i totally agree with you on all points becca. i see no harm in a well thought out plan. imo, the best way to learn about a species of fish is to keep the species yourself. i have done the same thing myself, but i do have a back up plan if all goes wrong, research the fish before buying and have a reliable source willing to take the fish. i recently did it in fact with my quads of frontosa's. i had them for a year and a half. grew them out. now they are residing in a very nice 180 gallon setup at the rectory of our church.
i strongly beleive there is alot to be gained by hands on experience. i just hate a willy nilly aproach.
sorry, enough hijacking of the post!![]()
what really annoys me is people not reaserching the fish before they buy them... Whats the fascination everyone seems to have with cichlids recently too. I cringe sometimes when i see some peoples tanks and its obvious is a dissaster waiting to happen. It doesnt take much to research these days with the internet etc..Becca said:Semper,semper fi said:keep it civilized gixer. she is not asking for opinions on her tank! that is not the question at hand at the moment.
the problem with it becca is his choice of fish. convicts are egglayers. can have spawns of 200+ fry. convicts are also prolific breeders. they can have spawns about every 6 weeks. they are also one of the easiest fish to breed. due to these factors, they are very common in the trade. usually lfs will not take convicts. quite different from an african mouthbrooder that will have about 10-15 fry at a time. now take that pair of convicts, they spawn every 6 weeks. meanwhile if you cannot get rid of the fry they will mature and spawn. without the means to provide adequate space you have all this happening in a 29 gallon tank.
i have two pair of convicts. about 20 of the fry i may be able to sell to the lfs for about .25 cents apeice. and they do have to be an inch or better to do that. i use the fry for feeders for my new world cichlids.
convicts are not called water bunnies for no reason.
You make a good point, and that - I can agree with you on. If the reason for not agreeing with his selection of fish has to do with their rapid breeding, then I'd have to say he's chosen the wrong fish. (I didn't know that about convicts, thanks for the heads up, I'll make sure to steer clear of them for a while!)
My biggest problem is basically when I see someone posting online about this great fish that they fell in love with and brought home. They know they won't be able to keep the fish in their current setup, so they'll either have to trade them back in before too long, or buy a new tank...and they've already made arrangements with their LFS to give them back after X amount of time. These people seem to get flamed everytime they do it.And I just don't understand it. As long as the fish is being properly cared for, what's the harm in trading them back, as long as they have a new home lined up for them once they're unable to keep them.
And, as far as my tank goes - I know that there *may* be some agression between the species I have when they get a bit older, but to be quite honest, everyone is getting along just beautifully now. No one fish gets picked on, agression is distributed quite nicely - and no one fish seems to be the bully of the group. If I find that I'm having compatibility issues once they get larger, I've got a close relationship with two LFS - one of which specializes in nothing but cichlids. They both have an open "tank" policy with their regular customers. As long as they know the origin of the fish they'll be happy to take the fish in for 1/3 of what they'd normally sell it as. This is mostly because they don't want your new batch of fry, or mix-breeds...but they'll have no problem taking in a couple of decent sized fish.