My Fishless Cycle

I have one of the EX series running on a 10 gallon that houses my Limia melanogaster colony. It seems to be a decent enough filter if you don't throw away the cartridge the way that they advise you to do. I just rinse mine out when the water flow slows down. Compared to most cartridge type filters it has two advantages that I can see. The pump location makes it self priming and the "biofilter" that they include will help a little if you do change the cartridge. I still prefer to rinse out my old cartridge and re-use it but Whisper needs to make money off of someone. Somebody must be buying their cartridges and replacing them.
Your high KH and pH is not likely to slow your cycle at all. What have you done to jump start the bacteria colony? Can you get some media from an established tank or even some substrate or a plant that will contain traces of the bacteria that we want to develop? Any source that contains a few bacteria will give you something to work with while dosing ammonia. By borrowing bacteria from another source, such as an established filter, I find that I can usually cycle a new tank in under a week. Without that source, I have no clue how long each new cycle will take because it depends on random chance how many bacteria my new filter will get to work with.
 
Well, I took a plant and some glass stones (the substrate) from my betta tank, which doesn't have a filter, but the ammonia and nitrite are low so I figure maybe it's cycling somehow?

That's the best I've got.

I kinda wanna know if I should buy the new filter because I'm going out tomorrow for it most probably.

My concern is that the EX30 is probably somewhat underpowered for the tank, if the rating isn't accurate... from what Iv'e heard they rate without media? When you put the media in it slows the flow... I also stuffed it with extra media for the purpose of cloning so that could slow it too...
 
The EX30 is rated to work for a 30 gallon tank. That does not mean that you can indiscriminately stock a 30 gallon and expect it to work but it does mean that you should be seeing some response from your cycling efforts if you have the right kind of bacteria developing. Replacing a filter that is on its way to being cycled is a great way to get the opportunity to start over from scratch. If you do decide to replace your filter, run it beside the new one until the tank gets cycled. That way you won't be throwing way any progress that you have made.
In your position, if I was that impatient, I would be checking around for a person who could share some media with me to get things started. Where are you located? There is a pinned topic in this forum for people willing to swap around filter media to help you get a cycle started. I have a link to it in my signature area. The label on the link is Donors, or something like that.
 
The EX30 is rated to work for a 30 gallon tank. That does not mean that you can indiscriminately stock a 30 gallon and expect it to work but it does mean that you should be seeing some response from your cycling efforts if you have the right kind of bacteria developing. Replacing a filter that is on its way to being cycled is a great way to get the opportunity to start over from scratch. If you do decide to replace your filter, run it beside the new one until the tank gets cycled. That way you won't be throwing way any progress that you have made.
In your position, if I was that impatient, I would be checking around for a person who could share some media with me to get things started. Where are you located? There is a pinned topic in this forum for people willing to swap around filter media to help you get a cycle started. I have a link to it in my signature area. The label on the link is Donors, or something like that.



I started my cycle on april 30th so Im 18 days in counting today. I think it took 12 days for the slightest drop...and another 4 days after that for it to get to 0 the first time. I added ammonia again and now its again been 3 days and still not at 0 for a 2nd time. and thats with me NOT topping up as high as you are...I've been trying to keep it at 3ppm when I top up
 
I started my cycle on april 30th so Im 18 days in counting today. I think it took 12 days for the slightest drop...and another 4 days after that for it to get to 0 the first time. I added ammonia again and now its again been 3 days and still not at 0 for a 2nd time. and thats with me NOT topping up as high as you are...I've been trying to keep it at 3ppm when I top up

lol, not sure whose diary you have been reading, because mine started at 2 ppm and I've never been able to top up because it hasn't gone down to 0 yet. It has now been 16 days. In short, my bacteria have ate less than 1 ppm of ammonia in 16 days and I have not added any more ammonia since the first day where I noted it in the log.

Anyway, I bought a new filter today! I was GOING to get the AquaClear 50... and then I decided on the 70 instead because it was only a little bit more expensive. Haha... I know the 50 is probably plenty but I thought, hey, since they're close in price why not go overpowered?

So now I guess I have no filtration problems. I am running them side-by-side (or rather, on opposite ends of the tank). I am much happier with this filter, it makes more "sense", there's a cartridge for media and I got extra ceramic to replace the carbon that I am not using.

So I probably went from slightly underpowered to WAY overpowered.. lol...

but this makes me happy :D nice filter.
 
I started my cycle on april 30th so Im 18 days in counting today. I think it took 12 days for the slightest drop...and another 4 days after that for it to get to 0 the first time. I added ammonia again and now its again been 3 days and still not at 0 for a 2nd time. and thats with me NOT topping up as high as you are...I've been trying to keep it at 3ppm when I top up

lol, not sure whose diary you have been reading, because mine started at 2 ppm and I've never been able to top up because it hasn't gone down to 0 yet. It has now been 16 days. In short, my bacteria have ate less than 1 ppm of ammonia in 16 days and I have not added any more ammonia since the first day where I noted it in the log.

Anyway, I bought a new filter today! I was GOING to get the AquaClear 50... and then I decided on the 70 instead because it was only a little bit more expensive. Haha... I know the 50 is probably plenty but I thought, hey, since they're close in price why not go overpowered?

So now I guess I have no filtration problems. I am running them side-by-side (or rather, on opposite ends of the tank). I am much happier with this filter, it makes more "sense", there's a cartridge for media and I got extra ceramic to replace the carbon that I am not using.

So I probably went from slightly underpowered to WAY overpowered.. lol...

but this makes me happy :D nice filter.

::::sob:::: yes it is...too bad I had to take mine back! the aquaclear 70 was way too overpowered for my pathetic 10 gallon tank LOL I REALLY liked that filter. someday when I have an extra 30 Im gonna beg hubby to let me get the 30 even tho that means buying another filter when I get my bigger tank.


what I was trying to tell you is that your cycle isn't too far off from the norm. This will be the 2nd time I've cycled a tank..the first time took me...ya ready for this? 3 months!

Your only a few days behind me...and I had a bit of mature media to start with from the 1st filter I cycled last year. Take heart. Once it gets going its not so hard to wait it out
 
Haha... don't they have an AquaClear filter for 10 gallons? Like a 15 or something? I'm pretty sure I saw one...

I LOVE THIS FILTER <3
 
Haha... don't they have an AquaClear filter for 10 gallons? Like a 15 or something? I'm pretty sure I saw one...

I LOVE THIS FILTER <3


yeah they have them...fairly cheap too. Thing is, I had to beg hubby to let me get a new one, and he only agreed as long as I got one that would go with the 55 gallon I plan on getting next feb so since the 70 was too much for the tank, I just have to wait out my time.
 
Day 27 and nitrite has come up quickly to 1.0 ppm, ammonia still hasn't reached 0 yet, lingering at 0.25....

I don't know if everyone caught this but I changed out half of the water while the ammonia was at 0.5 ppm, resulting in tankwater at 0.25 ppm of ammonia. So I removed 0.25 ppm ammonia manually, the bacteria didn't eat it. 0.25 is probably not too much in the longrun though so I'm not so concerned... just hoping for a drop to 0. I've never seen that pale yellow colour on the ammonia scale, not from tap water, rain water, or tank water... so it will be pretty cool and proof that my cycle is working if I can manage to achieve it. :good:
 
Saw pale yellow today!!! ZERO AMMONIA!!! So happy... currently trying to add ammonia but I think I have to let it get through the tank before I can measure whether I've added enough.
 
It's been 2 weeks since I added my AquaClear70.... do you think it's okay to shut down my WhisperEx without impacting the cycle too much? (A little bit of media was also transferred from one to the other, just a piece of floss that I threw in the Whisper)

I really hate that filter, it's somewhat noisy and I don't want the bacteria to get too cozy in there since I'm just gonna take it out :lol:... and probably throw it out....
 
Hate to say this but a month would really be better "overlap." Even with the "balancing" effect (2 filters will eventually each harbor 50% of the needed bacteria, given enough time) its still usually better to give it a lot of time because the "transfer" of beneficial bacteria from a mature filter running on an aquarium alongside a new filter can just be a pretty slow thing. (I can hear you now.. these darn bacteria are just slow no matter what you try to do with them!)

~~waterdrop~~
 

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