My 400L

[cichlid_stu]

Hi guys been a member of this site for a while and not really posted, so thought I would now.

Just wondering what you guys think of my stocking for my tank, I have:

3 (Red Hook Silver Dollar)
3 Silver Dollar
2 Green Severum
1 Gold Severum
2 Tiger Oscar
1 Jack Dempsey
1 Chinese Algae Eater
1 Common Pleco
1 Synodontis Catfish
1 Red Tailed Black Shark

Some people will probably say I shouldn't have some of the fish in here, so please let me know what you think.

 

[amy1994]

Would love to see some pics

 

[Davo86]

Hi, It does appear heavily overstocked, but as they are all still standing I will guess all are still juvis ?
tbh once all are fully grown you will have enough fish to fully stock almost 3 400L setups IMO

For example your dollars (red hooks in particular) get to a good 10" in diameter, then you have two 12" Oscars (although bigger is possible) 3 x 8-10" Severum, an 8-9" JD and a potential 18" pleco to name but a few

With good filtration and maintenance you might get away with the following in a 400L, (temperaments permitted)


1 Severum
1 Tiger Oscar
1 Jack Dempsey
1 Chinese Algae Eater
1 Common Pleco
1 Synodontis Catfish
1 Red Tailed Black Shark

 

[ChilliPepper]

I presume you're joking?

 

[minnnt]

I presume you're joking?

 

[Verminator89]

I don't think its a joke - oh dear.

 

[england]

As davo86 has stated,most of these fish will outgrow and it will become fish soup, at least you have taken the time to ask
We all know how fish shops will say "oh yeah they will work fine" but most of us here know different, usually from us actually trying it, hehe lord knows ive done soooo many concoctions, you could say i was a sushi cocktail maker

My old spotted silver dollar was huge,like a swimming dinner plate, oscars will grow massive, and even in a 5/2/2 ft its dificult if they fall out, then you have the chance the other cichlids will all fall out,

 

[hamfist]

Agreed, even in a 5x2x2, there's usually only enough living space for two (or at most 3) 10-12" sized cichlids to get along.

Stu, Once you've decided on a couple of the larger cichlids that seem to get on well, then you could add a one or two (to a few depending on the maximum size) of your catfish/bottom feeder preferences.

For a 400 litre I would not suggest silver dollars at all as your midwater shoaling fish. THey need to have a shoal, and they simply get too big. Swordtails or rainbowfish of some type (if you prefer faster moving fish) are a much better choice.

If you already have all the fish you quote in your first post, then I'd simply rehome the SD's straight away, and (if you must) replace them with A smaller type of fish as mentioned. For your larger fish you will simply have to resign yourself to having to remove fish as they start to argue.

I wish you all the best with it.

 

[cichlid_stu]

Would love to see some pics

Is that sarcasm not very welcoming is it.

I will upload some later this evening.

I presume you're joking?

No? Why the presumption.

 

[cichlid_stu]

Hi, It does appear heavily overstocked, but as they are all still standing I will guess all are still juvis ?
tbh once all are fully grown you will have enough fish to fully stock almost 3 400L setups IMO

For example your dollars (red hooks in particular) get to a good 10" in diameter, then you have two 12" Oscars (although bigger is possible) 3 x 8-10" Severum, an 8-9" JD and a potential 18" pleco to name but a few

With good filtration and maintenance you might get away with the following in a 400L, (temperaments permitted)


1 Severum
1 Tiger Oscar
1 Jack Dempsey
1 Chinese Algae Eater
1 Common Pleco
1 Synodontis Catfish
1 Red Tailed Black Shark

That is pretty much what I thought would be the case.

Filtration is excellent and is well maintained, with lots of retreats, a few plants (more to come).

Also, forgot to add, that I do have other tanks that can accommodate other fish.

You people may think that I am an idiot for coming on and asking you about this. Some may even not believe me, but that is your prerogative.

 

[Davo86]

You people may think that I am an idiot for coming on and asking you about this.

why should we, this is a fish forum for fish related questions, and that is exactly what you are doing

 

[england]

Well said davo, this is a fish forum, and you asking for advice on fish, top man even if yo do not heed the advice, atleast you will research a little more now, you will end up either rehoming fish or giving up all together if they constantly fight, so know you know, if they do, then rehome and that should keep it pleasurable

 

[cichlid_stu]

Well said davo, this is a fish forum, and you asking for advice on fish, top man even if yo do not heed the advice, atleast you will research a little more now, you will end up either rehoming fish or giving up all together if they constantly fight, so know you know, if they do, then rehome and that should keep it pleasurable

I already know that at the first sight of any aggression I will be doing some moving around.

I had to do it with a pair of convicts, as they took chunks out of my oreochromis mossambicus hybrid.

I'm not a newbie by the way. I just wanted to know people opinions on if this tank would work.

In the couple of weeks that the fish have been in there, there is no aggression so far, no nipped fins etc etc. So am hoping that for the time being at least, they will be ok. Then when the time comes, moving home.

You people may think that I am an idiot for coming on and asking you about this.

why should we, this is a fish forum for fish related questions, and that is exactly what you are doing

 

[england]

Yeah i remember you from before, hehe, no worries, as long as you know the score, maybe sorting it now will stop headaches in the future, could end up with deaths to the fish you want to keep more than others.

 

[always4lora]

Would be good to see some pics, you do see some people sucessfully keeping a lot of the fish in one tank successfully, by purposly overstocking it can spread the agression out evenly. Kinda of like what people do with african fish. Granted for this to work you wouldneed somne awsome filteration