Moss and bogwood

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I bought a 20-30cm mopani and a few driftwoods with skinny legs.

I have qdded moss balls in the tank before and I can't say they stay very green, they get brownish overtime. Is that just the reality of things? Even my purple live rock over time is just brown. I took two of them out for ages and as they dried out in the sun, they were purple again so it seems over time everything gets covered in gunk. Is there plants that are easy to grow and stay green without much expert knowledge?

Which types of mosses and plants could help me get closer to this type of look from which I take my inspiration? lol

I am ambitious but I aim to learn. I do need hardy examples since I am still working out water hardiness and other parameters. Any beginner level plants which could start off well?

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The easiest moss to start with is Java Moss but Willow, Christmas and Flame Moss are pretty close just a little slower growing. A lot of those pictures are using Coral or Crystal Moss which is a bit tougher as its quite slow growing. An other nice one is Fissidens sometimes called Phoenix Moss.

Something you could try to get the hang of it would be to do a moss wall which is where you wedge moss between two sheets of mesh and grow it up the back wall of your tank. Over time it will fully cover and you'll have plenty of moss to attach to your wood etc.

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The easiest moss to start with is Java Moss but Willow, Christmas and Flame Moss are pretty close just a little slower growing. A lot of those pictures are using Coral or Crystal Moss which is a bit tougher as its quite slow growing. An other nice one is Fissidens sometimes called Phoenix Moss.

Something you could try to get the hang of it would be to do a moss wall which is where you wedge moss between two sheets of mesh and grow it up the back wall of your tank. Over time it will fully cover and you'll have plenty of moss to attach to your wood etc.

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Amazing. Thanks :) I have messh :) I'll have to see which moss is best but I like something that stays short but spreads. Because I had java moss and I just became a tornado inside the middle of the tank and it took me ages to unravel and remove pieces of it attached to every other stem plants, driftwood and everything else it could latch onto piece by piece! Never letting it back in again. It grows way fast and doesn't stay pretty in its place. No idea how to control it.
 

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Amazing. Thanks :) I have messh :) I'll have to see which moss is best but I like something that stays short but spreads. Because I had java moss and I just became a tornado inside the middle of the tank and it took me ages to unravel and remove pieces of it attached to every other stem plants, driftwood and everything else it could latch onto piece by piece! Never letting it back in again. It grows way fast and doesn't stay pretty in its place. No idea how to control it.
Tie it down :)

Or some people attach it to small metal meshes like these like when building a moss wall that Wills mentioned earlier.

Some people use the gel form of superglue to make those "trees" and things, I've done that before and it was nice for a while, but I used java moss and after a while, hair algae took it over and I removed too much moss while trying to clear the algae. The glue cures almost instantly when in contact with moisture too, so can make it tricky, and turns white when cured in water, so it's easy to make a mess while trying to attach mosses and plants like buce and bolbitis to hardscape, so caution needed when using glue!

Check out a few vids on green aqua's youtube channel - he put together this low tech scape with a lot of easy, slow growing, beginner friendly plants, and you can see how he put the whole thing together so that he'd be able to just wedge the plants in gaps, and they'd slowly grow and attach themselves. But the final design reminds me a lot of the inspiration images you shared, and gives some ideas for easy undemanding beginner plants you could use for a scape like this, that isn't just moss and java fern, you know?

Another one of his, using moss this time, so can see how the pro aquascapers do it :)
A more advanced one of his, I haven't seen the whole build myself, but I'm intrigued by the tape he was using when attaching moss to branches!
 
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Tie it down :)

Or some people attach it to small metal meshes like these like when building a moss wall that Wills mentioned earlier.

Some people use the gel form of superglue to make those "trees" and things, I've done that before and it was nice for a while, but I used java moss and after a while, hair algae took it over and I removed too much moss while trying to clear the algae. The glue cures almost instantly when in contact with moisture too, so can make it tricky, and turns white when cured in water, so it's easy to make a mess while trying to attach mosses and plants like buce and bolbitis to hardscape, so caution needed when using glue!

Check out a few vids on green aqua's youtube channel - he put together this low tech scape with a lot of easy, slow growing, beginner friendly plants, and you can see how he put the whole thing together so that he'd be able to just wedge the plants in gaps, and they'd slowly grow and attach themselves. But the final design reminds me a lot of the inspiration images you shared, and gives some ideas for easy undemanding beginner plants you could use for a scape like this, that isn't just moss and java fern, you know?

Another one of his, using moss this time, so can see how the pro aquascapers do it :)
A more advanced one of his, I haven't seen the whole build myself, but I'm intrigued by the tape he was using when attaching moss to branches!
Amazing. ! Thanks. :) lots to watch.
 

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Amazing. ! Thanks. :) lots to watch.
lol yep, sorry, didn't mean to give you like, homework :lol:
I think it's because I'm in a similar place right now, and wanting a similar look to your own tank! So when you said:
Is there plants that are easy to grow and stay green without much expert knowledge?

Which types of mosses and plants could help me get closer to this type of look from which I take my inspiration? lol

I am ambitious but I aim to learn. I do need hardy examples since I am still working out water hardiness and other parameters. Any beginner level plants which could start off well?

I got a bit over excited to share the things I've been looking at too, and the plants I bought that so far *touch wood* I'm really liking! :D Like the buces, bolbitis, Hyrophilia pinnatifida and Myriophyllum mattogrossense, for simple, slow growing plants that will help give that "sunken, overgrown forest" look I was hoping for, and that you seem to want too, without being basic java moss or fern, and most of which need to be attached to hardscape rather than planted so I could stick them to the wood pieces I had. Here's my set up, still a work in progress! Ignore the hornwort at the top, that was just temporary to help make sure the fish were okay when they first transferred in to this set up:


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I also have some weeping moss sitting in a tank waiting for me to tie to the longer branch on the right there, and I'm procrastinating on doing it because I'll be attempting to tie it down, and I'm new to doing that too, and dreading it a bit...! :lol:


I really wanted this wood chunk below because I want this tank to really be for my plecos and cories, and I knew they'd really love the cave part as a hiding spot:
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On the front left is a small buce, on top is the Hyrophilia pinnatifida, and on the dragonstone the wood is resting on is a bolbitis, and I'm really liking how they're coming on and the look they give. Still need to add some more stuff and the weeping moss to really make it look mature, but, work in progress :)


Would love to see the tank/wood you're building! If you're happy to share.
 
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lol yep, sorry, didn't mean to give you like, homework :lol:
I think it's because I'm in a similar place right now, and wanting a similar look to your own tank! So when you said:


I got a bit over excited to share the things I've been looking at too, and the plants I bought that so far *touch wood* I'm really liking! :D Like the buces, bolbitis, Hyrophilia pinnatifida and Myriophyllum mattogrossense, for simple, slow growing plants that will help give that "sunken, overgrown forest" look I was hoping for, and that you seem to want too, without being basic java moss or fern, and most of which need to be attached to hardscape rather than planted so I could stick them to the wood pieces I had. Here's my set up, still a work in progress! Ignore the hornwort at the top, that was just temporary to help make sure the fish were okay when they first transferred in to this set up:


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I also have some weeping moss sitting in a tank waiting for me to tie to the longer branch on the right there, and I'm procrastinating on doing it because I'll be attempting to tie it down, and I'm new to doing that too, and dreading it a bit...! :lol:


I really wanted this wood chunk below because I want this tank to really be for my plecos and cories, and I knew they'd really love the cave part as a hiding spot:
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On the front left is a small buce, on top is the Hyrophilia pinnatifida, and on the dragonstone the wood is resting on is a bolbitis, and I'm really liking how they're coming on and the look they give. Still need to add some more stuff and the weeping moss to really make it look mature, but, work in progress :)


Would love to see the tank/wood you're building! If you're happy to share.
Wow, its dreamy! Ha mine won't look close to that. I have to move around (uproot and replant the stem plants and find a good spot for 3 rocks in the center. I'm awaiting delivery of bogwood (mopani) and will somehow find a good arrangement which doesn't come naturally to me at all, I have to copy a photo for inspiration.

I will absolutely share when I get a good picture.

I have tied down plants before, can't say it was easy. Fiddly as heck and then they were sort of diagonal or falling horizontal and not upright properly.

I have a question about glueing though, how do you glue without suffocating the roots or stem? Will a spot of glue to the root or stem base be fine?

Your tank looks beautiful! I'd like to swim in there lol
 

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