Maintaining A Cycle

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I'm thinking about locating my old 10 gal tank and setting it up for a hospital/quarantine tank. I'm wondering what the minimum would be to keep my filter cycled. Would dropping some food in there be enough? can I get a few snails and ghost shrimp... would they be enough to keep it going?

just looking for some ideas!
 
Best idea is to run the filter for it in your main tank (I keep sponges in my externals) and then you can set it up almost instantly when you need it.

Keeping shrimp in there would be a very bad idea; they don't produce enough waste to keep a filter cycled enough for fish, and what if you needed to use a copper based med?

It also means that if you do lose fish in the hospital tank, you can just dump the old media, buy new and put that back in your main tank to re-mature without having to worry. For the same reason, keeping a supply of plastic plants is a good idea as you can soak them in a strong salt water solution to sterilise them after use too.
 
hmm... well i picked up another large filter for my 55 gal tonight... so now i have two of them in there...

I suppose it doesnt make sense to make it a display tank either... if ill be medicating. any other suggestions?
 
I havent really looked at it yet... but if i were to somehow have two bio sponges in one slot, would it keep mature?
 
I have never bothered trying to have a hospital tank cycled. I find it is usually a waste. Whether or not I succeed in having a fish recover or not, I always bleach the tank and all its contents when I am done with it- this includes any filters and media.

The reason I work this way is threefold. First, I do not want anything nasty left over, especially if I have not succeeded in saving the patient. Second, a fair number of medication will kill off the beneficial bacteria thereby rendering any attempt to have a cycled tank useless. Third, I rely on regular waterchanges- normally 25% every other day, but more if needed, to keep the ammonia levels down and the water quality up.

Other considerations in a hospital tank are:
-Have it be bare bottom so one can see what the fish is eating as well as what it is pooping.
-Use sponge type filtration to minimize current so the fish doesn't have to expend energy on this. Throwing out a sponge and using a new one the next time is inexpensive.
-Add a few fake plants to provide a bit of cover with the intent to reduce stress levels on the fish (fake can be bleached real ones I would want to throw out).

Q tanks are a bit different. While they certainly can be cycled, one must be prepared to medicate them which may result in trashing the bacteria etc. My normal practice is to have a couple of smaller tanks cycled and occupied with some fish I can easily move out when I need to press the tank into Q service. Failing that I can usually swipe enough media/decor from several other tanks and some plants from my excess plant bin that I can use to help with bio-filtration. I always assume everything in a Q tank may end up having to undergo the same bleach sterilization as an H tank.

One never knows in advance how long fish will end up being in quarentine nor what problems may arise. What I do know is I want to see fish free of any signs of illness for at least 30 consecutive days and for recent imports even longer to be sure any dangers have passed.

This is what has worked best for me over the years, however it is certainly not the only way to do things.
 
some great ideas there.

So are you saying that for a hospital tank, filtration is not quite necessary? I mean, i know it is... but if you did water changes to keep your levels at bay, is that all you need? Just have a filter running to turn water over... When you put it like that, it makes sense not to move a filter back and forth between the hospital tank and display as there could be harmful stuff left over.

So would you say bare bottom would be the way to go?

any other suggestions?

Thanks for the replies!
 

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