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I have decided to get a group of festivums and get rid of my angels,

but first i need a little help,

People on the interenet on some profiles of these fish only say they get to 4" and some say 8" im getting confused, Can someone give me a right answer here?

Thanks
 
i was told yesterday that they are 5" max
 
Yeah 5/6 inches is about right 8 inches would be an exceptionally large one.
 
From the research I did I found there were 3 slightly different types each growing slightly larger than the last, hence the 4" 6" and 8".
 
Got this from another forum.

OK... so what is the fish you have in your tank that you thought was a regular Festivum?

Well, the answer depends on where it is from. Mesonauta insignis (the type species of the genus) is found in the Rio Negro and Rio Orinoco. This is what gets exported out of Manaus and Barcelos, Brazil. Distinguishing character: of the 7 faint vertical bars that these fish exhibit when stressed, 2 and 4 are joined and the scales above the diagonal "flag" bar are reticulated.

M. egregius is found in Rio Meta, Colombia. It is occasionally seen on price lists of fish from Colombia as Festivum. Distinguishing character: bar 3 divided into two.

It is quite certainly M mirificus if it was collected anywhere near Iquitos, or Pebas, Peru. Distinguishing character: divided bar 3 and there are think horizontal lines above the diagonal flag bar.

Southern Peru (Rio Madre de Dios), Bolivia and in Paraguay has the true M. festivus. Unfortunately, this is not a hotbed of aquarium fish export and so, it is unlikely that most of us ever had the real "Festivum" - kinda like the story with Geophagus surinamensis. Distinguishing character: bars 5 and 6 are joined.

Rio Xingu and Tocantins have M. acora. Despite increased collection in these two rivers, attention is mainly focused on colorful Loricariids and Pike cichlids. Thus, M. acora is unlikely to be found in your tank. Distinguishing character: divided bar 4

The latest (and most likely not the last) addition to the genus is the fish that was exported into the hobby so often in the 50's and 60's from Guyana, Mesonauta guyanae (Schindler, 1998) described from the Essequibo River in Guyana. There is limited export from Georgetown and so, you are certainly likely to have M. guyanae. I have yet to read any commentary on the authenticity of the status of this new species from other ichthyologists (read: Kullander)

How nice and complicated! Some don't care what species they have and others do. When comfortable, the said bars are not very visible on these fish. You can always put them in a plastic bag and shake them up a bit and wait for the fright patterns to emerge - you can tell pretty easily then. Cruel? Uh-huh. Effective? Certainly. You decide.

I'll find the other page with info a bit later, on my way out now!
 
good choice , i like festivums. there will of course be the obligatory pics i hope ?
 
good choice , i like festivums. there will of course be the obligatory pics i hope ?
Yes, dont worry mark, ill hve pics up after i get them, but first i need to see if anyone will take my angels,

rdp50734-thanks for the info, confusing but you know what i think ill get them take a pic with there stress bars and see from there
 
I had 3 very very bad number to get. 2 picked on one till he was so stressed he would not eat I lost him. Then there were 2. They were ok together but would chace eachother one was a big jerk. The mean one went back to the store. Now I have 1 with my discus and have a breeding pair of angels inthe old festivum tank.

I love festivums but I'm happy with one and I think he is happy with out the others.

So get 5 or more or just one. They are a lot like angels. You could get one and keep it with the angels.

4-6 in more like 4-5 in. But like said before there are 3 kinds they are very hard to tell apart.
 
I had 3 very very bad number to get. 2 picked on one till he was so stressed he would not eat I lost him. Then there were 2. They were ok together but would chace eachother one was a big jerk. The mean one went back to the store. Now I have 1 with my discus and have a breeding pair of angels inthe old festivum tank.

I love festivums but I'm happy with one and I think he is happy with out the others.

So get 5 or more or just one. They are a lot like angels. You could get one and keep it with the angels.

4-6 in more like 4-5 in. But like said before there are 3 kinds they are very hard to tell apart.
Mhmm, yehh ive had my experiances with festivums if you guys remember , not so good that time, but yeh i think it was because i didn have em in a group, but i know now, there kinda like discus, i dont think im gunna worry about the strain i get it will be what ever it is, lol i dont think tha made sense :p
 
festivums are still great fish , plus selling fry to rraise money for dicus could be a plan. also if you have to wait a bit longer for your discus it will just make it that bit sweeter when you do get them
 

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