Livebearing Pond?

[Nathen]

Hey guys let me know of any tips and downs to this idea?
Right well ive been breeding guppies for a long time in cool water in ireland, our water is constantly at 25 C so they are comfortable enough although this is the 15 generation of this breed so i guess they are adapting, they give an average of 50-60 fry every month.. but ive removed the male for 6 months now so im hoping they will stop soon. Anyway ive decided to dig a pond in my garden (pretty big) and obviously stock it with the babies so they can have live food along with vegitation, their will be a pond filter and of course they will be fed flake food also 2 times a day but im wondering, should i keep the pond shallow or deep? keep in mind we get wild quail come by our house for grass and seed along with cats and a lot of small birds. but im hoping this will just keep the number of fish down and the amount in my tank to a nice amount?
what do you think?
Btw our petstores do not buy our fish back from us
ive asked mates and they said no but ive gotten some wild breeds out from crossbreeding the guppies so would they be okay to ship to the states to be let out to the wild again? or will i have to keep them?
Please let me have all your info, buts and ifs and anything you can offer to help thanks

 

[phurn]

In the summer they will be fine... But winter will surely kill them all off.

 

[Nathen]

In the summer they will be fine... But winter will surely kill them all off.

I was thinking about that but i have found some outdoor water heaters? or i could bring them in for the winter? into my 125 gallon or my 90 gallon?

 

[fish48]

In the summer they will be fine... But winter will surely kill them all off.

I was thinking about that but i have found some outdoor water heaters? or i could bring them in for the winter? into my 125 gallon or my 90 gallon?

in the uk guppies can go outside in the summer months from about the end of may to to the first or second week of September
this is only a guide to the length of time that they can be kept out side, it can very depending on temp- and weather ,

a shallow pond may make it easy to catch the fish, if you use outdoor water heaters you will need to make sure the pond is well insulated also the surface of the pond will need to be insulated to prevent heat loss. it is best to bring them in for the winter,

you will have to keep your fish they are not true wild fish, you should not release any type of fish back in to the wild

 

[Nathen]

In the summer they will be fine... But winter will surely kill them all off.

I was thinking about that but i have found some outdoor water heaters? or i could bring them in for the winter? into my 125 gallon or my 90 gallon?

in the uk guppies can go outside in the summer months from about the end of may to to the first or second week of September
this is only a guide to the length of time that they can be kept out side, it can very depending on temp- and weather ,

a shallow pond may make it easy to catch the fish, if you use outdoor water heaters you will need to make sure the pond is well insulated also the surface of the pond will need to be insulated to prevent heat loss. it is best to bring them in for the winter,

you will have to keep your fish they are not true wild fish, you should not release any type of fish back in to the wild

Right no releasing but i was generally going to make this a project for identifying a male or female that has a cold resistant allele, some have done it before so they could keep their guppies out all year round. But i guess it would cost alot to install insulator and a pond cap on the pond ?
thanks for your help

 

[PrairieSunflower]

Have you tried joining free fish facebook groups, using gum tree. aquatic classifieds and even ebay? (I've seen someone on ebay offering guppies for free, though you have to put a price for the add to work). There are also some fish rescue websites that may take your guppies, such as http/fishrescueandwelfare.com/Home.php.

 

[OldMan47]

At 25C, you have your fish about as warm as I ever keep a livebearer. I keep my guppies at about 21C for more robust and stronger growth, but a bit slower than at 25C. Your fish are not adapting to lower temperatures as such, they are trying hard not to feel too hot. At higher temperatures, like yours, the fish will grow faster, mature sooner, produce fry at a younger age and die sooner. People who breed guppies for showing tend to run at 21 to 22C in their tanks. That leads to better tail development and more robust looking fish, which means fish that win at shows.
As far as a pond or summer tub, I find that it helps a lot. I use mostly goodeids in my tub but they always look better when I bring them in for the winter than they did when I put them out. Summer camp is a great way to improve the health of a breeding colony of any fish. The natural light and occasional bugs in the water makes for great fish health come fall. One thing I have found essential is trying to cool my tub. Because the daytime high temperature around here is about 35C in summer, cooling is a must. I use a fountain pump that produces a spray and that cools the water to far less than air temperatures. It also aerates the water returning to the tub. This is my fountain pump in action.