Just Had The Shock Of M,y Lifee
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Take the fish to your fish store in a bag. Don't ask for your money back. They'll take the fish if you take them there and explain that you JUST bought them from them, don't need any money back and are not taking the fish no matter how many times they refuse to take them back.
If you don't know how to do a water change, you realy aren't ready to keep fish and should return them and start doing some research from scratch. It's alright not to know, you'll learn, but we still need to be realistic and accept that the fish will NOT survive if you don't do a little research before trying to keep them. You've already had a death and it's also likely a lot of your fish are incompatible or should not be in your size tank (what size is it BTW?).
You can begin with the links in my signature and read, read, read as much as you possibly can on keeping fish. Search this forum, read all the pinned articles, do some google.com searches, buy some books, ask lots of questions.
If you don't know how to do a water change, you realy aren't ready to keep fish and should return them and start doing some research from scratch. It's alright not to know, you'll learn, but we still need to be realistic and accept that the fish will NOT survive if you don't do a little research before trying to keep them. You've already had a death and it's also likely a lot of your fish are incompatible or should not be in your size tank (what size is it BTW?).
You can begin with the links in my signature and read, read, read as much as you possibly can on keeping fish. Search this forum, read all the pinned articles, do some google.com searches, buy some books, ask lots of questions.
Erised
Cheer up, the worst is yet to come. ~ P. Johnson
You fill a bucket with water right now, but just leave it standing. Then tomorrow afternoon you will use the tap water you got out today to do the water change 
Do buy some water conditioner tomorrow as well. It will save you having to get the tap water ready 24 hours before a water change.
If you don't have someone with an aquarium that has been set up for at least 2 month already around you, then just leave the fish in. Keep a very close eye on them though, and let us know if they start to behave odd or start losing colour.
Can I ask what fish you have in your tank right now? And how big your tank is in either litres or gallons?
Do buy some water conditioner tomorrow as well. It will save you having to get the tap water ready 24 hours before a water change.
If you don't have someone with an aquarium that has been set up for at least 2 month already around you, then just leave the fish in. Keep a very close eye on them though, and let us know if they start to behave odd or start losing colour.
Can I ask what fish you have in your tank right now? And how big your tank is in either litres or gallons?
I just read a few of your other posts - how long has this tank been running?
And just a simple request, to make it easier for everyone to understand what you mean to say, can you try to type in full sentences? If English is not your first language or whatever. then fine, but otherwise, please try to.
And just a simple request, to make it easier for everyone to understand what you mean to say, can you try to type in full sentences? If English is not your first language or whatever. then fine, but otherwise, please try to.
yes ok
by the way i appreciate all this help thanks
i have 4 harlequin rasboras-1 died
2 platys
2 guppys
1 siamse flying fox
the tank is about 12-13 gallons
i dont think my lfs has a water conditioner there out
but i will just once put water in the tank get the next days ready
ok sorry well i had it going for 1 day then put fish in
by the way i appreciate all this help thanks
i have 4 harlequin rasboras-1 died
2 platys
2 guppys
1 siamse flying fox
the tank is about 12-13 gallons
i dont think my lfs has a water conditioner there out
but i will just once put water in the tank get the next days ready
ok sorry well i had it going for 1 day then put fish in
Erised
Cheer up, the worst is yet to come. ~ P. Johnson
I'm just glad to see you're taking our advice and trying to do what's best for your fish
Having a look at your stock list, I must say you're fully stocked already and really recommend not getting any other fish at all. The guppies and platies, do you know the sex of them? If it's a m/f combination you will end up having a lot of fry very quickly, and this will overpopulate your tank in no time. It's also recommended to have 2 females to every male when it comes to livebearers (Platies, guppies, mollies and endlers to name a few) because the male will not stop harrassing the female. When there's only 1 female around, this will stress her so much it often leads to the death of the female.
I'm also afraid the flying fox will get too big for your tank, I'd personally say they'd need at least 20 Gallons. Are you planning on upgrading your tank to a bigger tank or getting a bigger tank at all within the next 4 months? If so, I'd say you're ok with the stocking you've got going on right now, but if you're planning on making this your only tank you'd be best off finding a different home for your livebearers and flying fox.
About feeding of the fish, especially when cycling, I recommend you only feed them once every 2 days rather than every day. And if possible, try and get some frozen bloodworms for them instead of just flakes, this is higher in protein and should keep them stronger and healthier when going through a difficult time when cycling the tank.
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If you can't find any water conditioner in your fish shop at all, you could order it of the internet and get it shipped to you as well
--Edit again--
Just thinking ... when you bought the harlequin, was it already missing it's eye? Or did it lose it in your tank?
Having a look at your stock list, I must say you're fully stocked already and really recommend not getting any other fish at all. The guppies and platies, do you know the sex of them? If it's a m/f combination you will end up having a lot of fry very quickly, and this will overpopulate your tank in no time. It's also recommended to have 2 females to every male when it comes to livebearers (Platies, guppies, mollies and endlers to name a few) because the male will not stop harrassing the female. When there's only 1 female around, this will stress her so much it often leads to the death of the female.
I'm also afraid the flying fox will get too big for your tank, I'd personally say they'd need at least 20 Gallons. Are you planning on upgrading your tank to a bigger tank or getting a bigger tank at all within the next 4 months? If so, I'd say you're ok with the stocking you've got going on right now, but if you're planning on making this your only tank you'd be best off finding a different home for your livebearers and flying fox.
About feeding of the fish, especially when cycling, I recommend you only feed them once every 2 days rather than every day. And if possible, try and get some frozen bloodworms for them instead of just flakes, this is higher in protein and should keep them stronger and healthier when going through a difficult time when cycling the tank.
--Edit--
If you can't find any water conditioner in your fish shop at all, you could order it of the internet and get it shipped to you as well
--Edit again--
Just thinking ... when you bought the harlequin, was it already missing it's eye? Or did it lose it in your tank?
Sounds like you're up for sorting this out. Got the bucket ready?
Erised kindly advised you read this:
http
/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=10099
What did you think? Can you now explain what is happening in your tank?
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Ps. Agreed about the feeding once every 2 days, do as Erised said.
Erised kindly advised you read this:
http
/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=10099What did you think? Can you now explain what is happening in your tank?
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Ps. Agreed about the feeding once every 2 days, do as Erised said.
Your LFS will deffinately have a water conditioner/de-chlorinator. Get some so you can do water changes without waiting. If you can get it now, do so and then you can do a water change tonight. Just a few hours may be the difference between saving all the fish and losing them. Then do a water change daily. read the instructions that come with or on the water conditioner box to see exactly how much you need to put in and how to use it. Make sure you follow them exactly - fish are very fragile creatures and most are not forgiving of mistakes.
Don't worry about the fish you have until after you've cycled. They'll be ok together in your tank until then. Then you can work on re-homing those that you need to or replacing any if necessary. You'll also likely find that you aren't as fully stocked by then (though I hope they DO all make it through the cycle).
When you buy the water conditioner (ask the employees for it - they can't not have some of some kind), also get a test kit that you can use to measure ammonia, nitrIte and nitrAte. Once you have all those, ask for more help here so we can explain about cycling and testing simply.
Don't worry about the fish you have until after you've cycled. They'll be ok together in your tank until then. Then you can work on re-homing those that you need to or replacing any if necessary. You'll also likely find that you aren't as fully stocked by then (though I hope they DO all make it through the cycle).
When you buy the water conditioner (ask the employees for it - they can't not have some of some kind), also get a test kit that you can use to measure ammonia, nitrIte and nitrAte. Once you have all those, ask for more help here so we can explain about cycling and testing simply.
No. The reasons for this are many and perhaps a little more than you need to think about right now (pH/hardness fluctuations, displacement that realy isn't affordable at the moment if these are large rocks and contamination for anyone who disagrees).
Just concentrate on getting de-chlorinator and doing water changes for the time being. You will have plenty of time for aquascaping and decorating later.
Just concentrate on getting de-chlorinator and doing water changes for the time being. You will have plenty of time for aquascaping and decorating later.
Erised
Cheer up, the worst is yet to come. ~ P. Johnson
Depending on what type of stones they are and where you got them from
If you do go down to the petstore tomorrow to ask about dechlorinator/water conditioner, try and pick up a couple of plants. They will give your fish some places to hide if they don't feel well, and often help cycling the tank faster as well. I really recommend moss balls if your shop sells them, but right now any live plants are better than none
Could you please answer the question if your harlequin was already missing his eye when you bought him or not?
Reason I want to know this is because the flying fox is often confused with the Chinese Algae Eater. Chinese algae eaters are known for their aggression, and one of the first things they usually go for when killing other fish (they don't mean to, they simply eat the slime coat) is the eyes. So if the eye of the harlequin wasn't missing already when you bought it, you might have a bit of a problem there.
That sounds right indeed Make sure the water stays room temperature though, it's not good to put water in the tank thats much cooler or warmer than the water that's already in the tank.
If you do go down to the petstore tomorrow to ask about dechlorinator/water conditioner, try and pick up a couple of plants. They will give your fish some places to hide if they don't feel well, and often help cycling the tank faster as well. I really recommend moss balls if your shop sells them, but right now any live plants are better than none
Could you please answer the question if your harlequin was already missing his eye when you bought him or not?
Reason I want to know this is because the flying fox is often confused with the Chinese Algae Eater. Chinese algae eaters are known for their aggression, and one of the first things they usually go for when killing other fish (they don't mean to, they simply eat the slime coat) is the eyes. So if the eye of the harlequin wasn't missing already when you bought it, you might have a bit of a problem there.
That sounds right indeed
Make sure the water stays room temperature though, it's not good to put water in the tank thats much cooler or warmer than the water that's already in the tank.
Erised
Cheer up, the worst is yet to come. ~ P. Johnson
Have the stones been bought in a fish shop? If so, I'd boil them in a pan of water for about 15 minutes, and after that you can put them in if you want to. Though, I agree with Sylvia, and it doesn't really matter right now. It's best to leave the tank as empty as possible to give the fish more room to swim
Is it possible for you to get a picture of your flying fox? I just want to make sure it isn't a chinese algae eater, because if it is, and you already have a fish with a missing eye right now ... chances are it will be the algae eater killing the fish before the cycle will.
Is it possible for you to get a picture of your flying fox? I just want to make sure it isn't a chinese algae eater, because if it is, and you already have a fish with a missing eye right now ... chances are it will be the algae eater killing the fish before the cycle will.
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