Jamacian Blue Guppy

[helterskelter]

I put mine through a winter period from dec till march allowing temp to drop to 66-70f
Just saves heating costs if the fish room.

As i space heat my little fish room and do not have a heater in any of my tanks in there.

They will still drop fry but it go's to a gestation period of 6-8 week and find the fry are stronger but grow slower.
Some people think they may suffer from diseases at lower temps but this dose not happen if you keep good husbandy on the fish.

I rear most of my general fry along side the parents, while some are eaten in the first 2-3 days some survive. But i like to keep them going over several generations and try to breed better colour and look to the fish.
You can of course give fry to friends.

Not suffer..... more vunrable to disease

What species of yours have gestation periods of up to 8 weeks?

Personally I dont find their not any more vulnerable at lower temps.
If you have a list of diseases that attach guppies in lower temps I would be happy to read this. Surly though this can have it's own topic.

In my personal experience I often have guppies that go 6-8 weeks in this cool period between dropping fry.
And as here we are talking about guppies, I'm talking about guppies. Not some unusual wild thing most people would not of heard of.

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

The guppies I saw were cold water ones. Does that mean they will take longer to breed?

 

[5teady_2012]

no way are they more vunrable to disease

The temps most people keep them at ie 22-28 deg, the chances of disease percentages are roughly the same, any lower and they are, due to metablism and and weakness of it.

Helter, thats very intersting that about guppies and i am interested in what exactly you did over this cooling period, never seen a guppy go as far as 8 weeks, infact not even 6 weeks at normal average temps.

Could u pm and tell me what u did so we dont interrupt this thread, just if i decide to start breeding them again at any point, i would be intrested in slowing down the process to this extent, thanks.

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

But isn't 22 - 28 degrees for "normal" guppies and not the ones I posted the video for? I'm not arguing I'm just trying to get my facts right as I'd love some of them and since I can't find information on them on google then I'd like as much info as possible before actually buying them.

 

[5teady_2012]

But isn't 22 - 28 degrees for "normal" guppies and not the ones I posted the video for? I'm not arguing I'm just trying to get my facts right as I'd love some of them and since I can't find information on them on google then I'd like as much info as possible before actually buying them.

Im not sure on these specific ones, helter said he keeps them at 21 degrees fine so maybe he can give ya more info

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

But isn't 22 - 28 degrees for "normal" guppies and not the ones I posted the video for? I'm not arguing I'm just trying to get my facts right as I'd love some of them and since I can't find information on them on google then I'd like as much info as possible before actually buying them.

Im not sure on these specific ones, helter said he keeps them at 21 degrees fine so maybe he can give ya more info

thats ok, thank you

 

[helterskelter]

But isn't 22 - 28 degrees for "normal" guppies and not the ones I posted the video for? I'm not arguing I'm just trying to get my facts right as I'd love some of them and since I can't find information on them on google then I'd like as much info as possible before actually buying them.

Im not sure on these specific ones, helter said he keeps them at 21 degrees fine so maybe he can give ya more info

22-26 is the ideal rage for all guppies, 28 is on the high side and you may suffer from what we call "burn-out" this is there the fry grow to fast and the muscle structure is not strong enough as the tail develops.

Gestation period at 78f (25c) in guppies is around 30 day, the lower the temp the longer this period becomes.
Lowering the temp to 70 gestation is around 4-5 week's and dropping that little bit more slow's right down and at 66f it around 6 week depending on the female. I've also had them go as long as 8 weeks.
If you drop the temp below this your find they will stop producing fry.

One thing with dropping the temp, is that you give the young fish time to develop. Allowing the cartalage to ossification correctly and to allow skeletal muscle structure and develop.
The young fish will then hold their tail better once mature stopping the bending of the spine which is very common in fish grown to fast.

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

Thank you

 

[Shred]

Helterskelter Dipsydoodlenoodle I pressume you are located somewhere in the southwest? I saw these today at my lfs after going in to buy some guppies to liven up my community tank. Ended up buying two pairs of them. The females are small and dull but the males look stunning. However I'm a bit worried one of my males isn't the same as the other. He has orange bits and more black dots than the other. Have I been given an endler by mistake?

(sorry I'm aware that these pics are aweful)

I think this is one female and the suspected endler.

This is the two males.

And the two males on the left again.

 

[fish48]

they are Japan Blue guppy a cross with a wild guppy/ known as a blue endler

 

[OldMan47]

There are no real endlers in those pictures. I am not familiar with all of the guppy varieties available, but I do know wild endlers. I am a registered breeder of those guys and love them to bits.

 

[helterskelter]

Their Japanese blues. the Orange and black is normal in these fish.

Their not a endlers or a endlers cross.
Japanese were found as the name suggests living wild in Japan inthe late 1980's and have been in the hobby ever since

 

[Shred]

Ok thanks for the info!

Are these the same as in your lfs dipsydoodlenoodle?

 

[fish48]

of coures they are Japan Blue guppy's and not a endler/
sorry for any confusing

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

Ok thanks for the info!

Are these the same as in your lfs dipsydoodlenoodle?

Yes EXACTLY the same; what temperature have you got yours at? Were they in the cold or tropical section in the shop?

I'm located as far away form the south as possible; I'm in the north east (Newcastle).

I got really excited at seeing your photos as it's the first time I've seen someone else as well. I really like the fish; my problem is I don't have facilities for breeding them; although I think I'll take the change and plead ingnorant to my parents when they breed