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Whoah! I wouldn't do it!! Hahaha!
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I MIGHT do it if I had both soft and hard water tanks that were under-stocked. First I'd talk to Jonny at Dan's Fish to see if he would let me know what fish were involved. He may or may not tell but we seem to get along OK at least to the point that he knows who I am.
I have several tanks with a GH of 110 ppm and several with a GH of 250 ppm. But there is no room at the Inn.
I understand business desperation, but if I were in the US, Dan's would be off my list of sellers with that. I wouldn't buy from him after that.
Believing all fish handle all water is convenient thinking - it isn't analytical thinking with the welfare of the fish in mind. Believing a 'fish is just a fish", which would underly an idea like grab bag fish isn't what I'd expect from a dealer in rare fish. It's Walmart thinking. I won't be suggesting his place as one to check to American posters after seeing that.
Believing all fish handle all water is convenient thinking - it isn't analytical thinking with the welfare of the fish in mind. Believing a 'fish is just a fish", which would underly an idea like grab bag fish isn't what I'd expect from a dealer in rare fish. It's Walmart thinking. I won't be suggesting his place as one to check to American posters after seeing that.
TwoTankAmin
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I can tell you that at least one person on this site received 4 zebra plecos at no charge. i had 4 left after selling all of my stock besides them. Two were mature fish pushing 20 years +/- and two were offspring left after selling the rest. I wanted somebody who would take the two older ones and be their retirement home until the died of old age and the other two would have needed a tank just for them.
So I bagged them up and shipped them across the country. I even paid for the shipping. The person who took them off my hands (so to speak) is an experienced fish keeper whom I knew would give them a good home. This was the most important factor in my decision to be able to shut down the zebra tank or to be able to repurpose it should I need to do so.
I can also tell folks this. When I was breeding zebras in decent numbers and selling them, people who bought -0 or more received an extra fish. I sent out a box before I went away to visit friends for the weekend. But. I wanted to know that the fish arrived alive and in good condition. When I called the buyer he confirmed that the fish had arrived in great condition.
He said nothing about receiving the extra fish. Maybe he felt I could not count to 10 and had made a mistake and, if he acknowledged it, that I might want him to pay me for it. I explained that I had included an extra fish. He was glad to say thank me at that point in the conversation. As far as I can tell I am the only seller who will put an extra zebra in the box. But, I do not charge Dan's prices either.
So I bagged them up and shipped them across the country. I even paid for the shipping. The person who took them off my hands (so to speak) is an experienced fish keeper whom I knew would give them a good home. This was the most important factor in my decision to be able to shut down the zebra tank or to be able to repurpose it should I need to do so.
I can also tell folks this. When I was breeding zebras in decent numbers and selling them, people who bought -0 or more received an extra fish. I sent out a box before I went away to visit friends for the weekend. But. I wanted to know that the fish arrived alive and in good condition. When I called the buyer he confirmed that the fish had arrived in great condition.
He said nothing about receiving the extra fish. Maybe he felt I could not count to 10 and had made a mistake and, if he acknowledged it, that I might want him to pay me for it. I explained that I had included an extra fish. He was glad to say thank me at that point in the conversation. As far as I can tell I am the only seller who will put an extra zebra in the box. But, I do not charge Dan's prices either.
I don't disagree with what you are saying and I think Dan could handle it better (not addressing the hardwater thing but the grab bag); he has a few fish left over that he wants to dump them but of course no experience fish keeper should buy a random fish without any idea of species and that is the catch and why it is so inappropriate. If it is a tetra it is likely a species that should be in a group if it is a cichild it might have special requirements and yada yada yada it is just wrong and dan should know that but he is more interested in dumping the remaining stock that he can't hope to sell as a lonesome fish.
For me what is so foreign to my thinking is buying fish of unknown species. The randomness of it, the buying blind, is odd to me. I look for specific species that suit the care I can provide. I just don't want any fish. My tank space, especially now that I've downsized a bit (probably not enough) is precious. When I have room for new additions, I look for fish I REALLY want. Don't most people?
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I posted the following to "Is Dan Blowing Smoke" when it should have been here. Going to leave it there also but below is what was posted.
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Just had a talk with my friend that does Dan's driving to pick up fish. I told him about the concern in relation to the 'grab bag' and he is going to talk to Dan about it. My friend won't see him until Monday so we shall see what we shall see.
Actually my friend, who basically knows nothing about fish, said that Dan is VERY knowledgeable as to fish but not so much so on the business end. With his new warehouse it is a new world with him as to size and he is learning as he goes.
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Just had a talk with my friend that does Dan's driving to pick up fish. I told him about the concern in relation to the 'grab bag' and he is going to talk to Dan about it. My friend won't see him until Monday so we shall see what we shall see.
Actually my friend, who basically knows nothing about fish, said that Dan is VERY knowledgeable as to fish but not so much so on the business end. With his new warehouse it is a new world with him as to size and he is learning as he goes.
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Oh, I also did a contact form with my main person at Dan's, Jonny, and told him about the concern.
I wish Dan good luck …he’ll certainly need it to sell any “grab bag” fish at that price or any price as most true fish keepers wouldn’t want to risk getting a fish not suitable for their tanks or a species of fish they may not want. The question is not ”is Dan blowing smoke” but should be “what is Dan smoking?” 
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Probably filter floss . Used filter floss from a Rainbow Fish aquarium . “ Look at the pretty colors ““what is Dan smoking?”
Dried enchidorus bleheri leaves, duh!“what is Dan smoking?”
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Please don't take me wrong but something bothers me about this thread. Does Dan make mistakes? Of course he does as do we all. Still he has been proven to be one of the best suppliers around.
I can't say that I agree with the grab bag concept but there are a LOT of reviews and they come up as 4.93/5.0 stars.
What bothers me is that one of the best suppliers is seriously being put down here. Currently, while I type, there are 1,763 guests on the site. I tend to believe that some of the posts are meant in jest but how many of the 'guests' are being turned off to one of the best suppliers around. It is like this thread is a roast against Dan's Fish and that just isn't fair going my his reviews and overall reputation.
I would be interested in knowing how many people that are putting him down have actually ordered from him and been disappointed.
I can't say that I agree with the grab bag concept but there are a LOT of reviews and they come up as 4.93/5.0 stars.
What bothers me is that one of the best suppliers is seriously being put down here. Currently, while I type, there are 1,763 guests on the site. I tend to believe that some of the posts are meant in jest but how many of the 'guests' are being turned off to one of the best suppliers around. It is like this thread is a roast against Dan's Fish and that just isn't fair going my his reviews and overall reputation.
I would be interested in knowing how many people that are putting him down have actually ordered from him and been disappointed.
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