I've ordered my 1st ever Endlers...

Don't combine the guppies and endler's, or you won't be honestly able to say the endler's are santa marias. Their value will drop like a stone, and you'd have hybrids really quickly.

Parasites and QT? If the best seller in the world combined fish, parasites could be a problem. If even one farmed fish is put with wilds, parasites would be a problem. They get around, quickly. I would QT any new fish for 6 weeks, in a tank as good as the one that will be their permanent home.
Right now, I have 3 platys in week 4, and two pairs of Aphyosemion cf louessense in week one. The killies came from a longtime acquaintance whom I trust to have done things well. But he told me he bought some white clouds recently to keep with shy killies, so the risk of cross contamination is real. It's nothing personal - just basic caution.
You can make 20 purchases and dodge a bullet with every one of them. But the one that brings in a serious parasite can be devastating.
Ten or so years ago, I had large numbers of livebearers. My water was good for them, and I had a friend who brought me all kinds of weird and wonderful fish from her travels for work in Central America. At some point, fish from a trusted source (home bred) came in, and I was sloppy with QT. They developed a parasitic infection I had never seen before, and it resisted all treatments. It was a very tough dinoflagellate things that created a velvet like film, but wasn't velvet. I'd been overconfident with net transfer, not having seen a disease in my tanks for years. I lost 3 tanks of montezumae, 7 species of mollies, 5 swordtail and platy species, and a bunch of other really treasured species that were all several generations in and doing well. When the parasite burned out, or responded to a desperate med (I'll never know) I took stock, realized it had only affected livebearers, and changed directions. My three favourite species were all dead, and I had gone to great lengths to find them.

Lesson learned, and lesson shared.
 
so, since these are the only "fish" in these tanks, they are in effect quarantined... so far, I've not added more "fish" to these tanks, than on the original purchase, all these fish are from Dan's, bred there, and prequarentined, so I'm assuming safe... that is, if there really aren't transferable disease between the fish and the shrimp???

each fish, are in their own tanks, there would be no cross tanking, unless I'm culling shrimp or fish, to be feeders in another tank, I could sell or gift extras, but that thought is much down the road...
 
Two weeks ago a pair of TR a. borelli arrived from The Wet Spot. Since they were from The Wet Spot I considered skipping quarantine. I’m glad I didn’t. Two weeks into quarantine and the female looks terminal. I’m not sure what the problem is. I removed her to a 1 gallon vessel but will probably euthanize her this morning.
 
they are in my cart, but may sell out before they get ordered, in which case I'll likely either have to wait for more, or select another???

these are what I'm after...


the 2nd picture in that link shows a pair... the 1st picture looks like 2 males...
I was looking them up as love the look , I bought my Endlers in south Florida from a guy who used to breed them but at the time Santa Maria Endlers were not around or he simply did not breed them , I have bought from Dans who saw out of stock but even with over night UPS which in my area is great it is now to hot thus limited to Winter months when in 70s for buying but those caught my eye if can now find them locally but doubt it .
 
they are in my cart, but may sell out before they get ordered, in which case I'll likely either have to wait for more, or select another???

these are what I'm after...


the 2nd picture in that link shows a pair... the 1st picture looks like 2 males...
When I click the link, the page seems blocked.
Wow beautiful endlers I have interestingly enough found them to be jumpers inside my tank but not outside in stock tank which is weird . I keep blackbar endlers .
Actually, all fish are potential jumpers. Which doesn't mean that they will but that they just can... For I have a number of open tanks and they don't jump.
 
I deleted the link, & recopied it... it did work for me the 1st time though, so maybe, because it's to buy fish, & they don't ship to your country, so it shows as blocked???

I can copy the picture though...

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When I click the link, the page seems blocked.

Actually, all fish are potential jumpers. Which doesn't mean that they will but that they just can... For I have a number of open tanks and they don't jump.
Agree but I have found male endlers and male guppies the worse while other tank with platies is not covered and no jumpers but endlers and guppies again just males seem to even jump in the HOB filter spout which impossible to cover .

You have not found this to be the case ?

Yet again the irony is have not experienced this outside .
 
You have not found this to be the case ?

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In general, both sexes are potential jumpers. That goes for all kinds of fish. But that doesn't mean that it happens with everyone.
I've got 80+ tanks overhere and most are without a lid...
 
so, since these are the only "fish" in these tanks, they are in effect quarantined... so far, I've not added more "fish" to these tanks, than on the original purchase, all these fish are from Dan's, bred there, and prequarentined, so I'm assuming safe... that is, if there really aren't transferable disease between the fish and the shrimp???

each fish, are in their own tanks, there would be no cross tanking, unless I'm culling shrimp or fish, to be feeders in another tank, I could sell or gift extras, but that thought is much down the road...
Unless each tank had its own equipment (net, siphon etc.), there could be cross contamination to other fish.
 

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