I've ordered my 1st ever Endlers...

[Magnum Man]

I have 2 pairs, of Santa Maria Endlers coming to share a tank with colored neo shrimp.... anything I should know about these tiny wonders???

shrimp tanks are mostly hard well water, with lots of plants, and an over size rated sponge filter in a 10 gallon tank...

 

[emeraldking]

Hi @Magnum Man, I've kept this hybrid strain for years now and still do. They thrive well in moderate soft till hard water without any problems. Despite of the fact that they swim in all layers of the tank, a wider tank is preferable than a higher tank for this Japanese created hybrid strain. Actually, the full name given to thi strain is Santa Maria bleeding heart hybrid endlers. But nowadays, most will only use the first part of the name.
Like most endlers and endler hybrids, they can be combined with shrimps perfectly. And room temperature is sufficient to them. So, you don't need a heater for them to keep them good.
The lower part of the males body can differ from orange till deep red depending on how you select these fish.
Here are some of mine:

 

[MaloK]

anything I should know about these tiny wonders???

They multiply as fast as shrimps, if not faster.

 

[EmmaS]

Fantastic fish despite not having them anymore. Definitely quarantine them for internal worms extra.
They love playing in high flow. Adult females will eat small shrimp.

 

[Magnum Man]

it would seem unusual, to need to treat ( extra ) for parasites on line bred fish, that are domestically bred... these are from Dan's, and they are bred there, not imported?? ?

 

[EmmaS]

it would seem unusual, to need to treat ( extra ) for parasites on line bred fish, that are domestically bred... these are from Dan's, and they are bred there, not imported?? ?

The only time I got internal worms in fish was from live bearers. Apistogramma are also very prone.
I trust nobody when it comes to fish or plants unless it's a tissue culture. I quarantine everything after a bad experience. Anything can hitchhike on plants.
This is one thing I totally disagree with father fish on. Grabbing stuff from a local creek or pond. This is asking for trouble. It's risky,

 

[AJ356]

it would seem unusual, to need to treat ( extra ) for parasites on line bred fish, that are domestically bred... these are from Dan's, and they are bred there, not imported?? ?

Always quarenteen new fish. That's a basic, a no brainer. Doesnt matter if they are line bred or not.

 

[emeraldking]

The only time I got internal worms in fish was from live bearers.

Livebearers bred in Asian fish farms are most liklely carriers of internal worms. But for sure not all livebearers bred alsewhere have internal worms. But most stores in the UK have livebearers which were bred at Asian fish farms.

Always quarenteen new fish. That's a basic, a no brainer. Doesnt matter if they are line bred or not.

No matter where I buy fish, they'll all be put in quarantine first. It's not always that they carry wrong things that may infect other fish. But the water papameters can also be too different from mine. Which may cause stress or other problems. But in general I'm keeping rare livebearers and other rare fish which makes it for me necessary to be cautious for I just can't go to a store and buy new ones. For most stores don't carry most of those fish that I have.

 

[Magnum Man]

got my endlers today, 2 pairs, they are in with a dozen blue shrimp... looking good, another tiny fish... should be a near perfect breeding tank, for both

 

[Magnum Man]

now thinking about another fish for another shrimp tank... maybe White Cloud Mountain Minnows???

 

[gwand]

White cloud mountain minnows should be kept in groups of at least six. Also I have mine in a ten gallon tank and find they would be better off in a 20 gallon. They are swimmers.

 

[Magnum Man]

well my Santa Maria Endlers, seem to be doing fine... I'm not seeing any babies yet, but the tank is filled with plants, and blue neo shrimp...
so, I got 2 pairs, is that a good number??? they were sold in pairs , often times to actually increase breeding success, there are odd numbers, either more males, or more females, depending...

my otherly colored ( not red )shrimp don't appear to be breeding as fast as the red ones do... not sure if that's normal or not???

no pressure on the fish or the shrimp... I'm happy they are all surviving... the red shrimp are in with a few sun set, high fin, platy's, my blue shrimp are in with the Santa Maria Endlers, the yellow shrimp are in with a super red pleco, right now, that was already in that tank, before the shrimp were added... I've been thinking that one may eat the shrimp, at least the babies??? I have some long fin, white cloud mountain minnows coming, to go into that yellow shrimp tank, so I'm planning to relocate the pleco, and some platinum albino guppies coming for the orange shrimp tank...

at that point, I'll just be removing anything whose numbers breeding get high enough, that the tank gets too crowded... all are heavily planted 10 gallon tanks with over sized sponge filters...

the cherry shrimp transplants appear to be thriving in my Hillstream tank, I regularly see adults, and think I saw some babies in this tank the other day, which I expect will get eaten by the bigger fish in this tank...

 

[emeraldking]

Those Santa Marias will breed by themselves. Just give it time...
Curious for those platinum albino guppies...

 

[Magnum Man]

they are in my cart, but may sell out before they get ordered, in which case I'll likely either have to wait for more, or select another???

these are what I'm after...

https://www.dansfish.com/product.detail/5960/Livebearers-Guppies-&-Endlers-Albino-Full-Platinum-Guppy-Pair-(1M1F)-(Poecilia-reticulata)

the 2nd picture in that link shows a pair... the 1st picture looks like 2 males...

 

[Salamandra]

I have 2 pairs, of Santa Maria Endlers coming to share a tank with colored neo shrimp.... anything I should know about these tiny wonders???

shrimp tanks are mostly hard well water, with lots of plants, and an over size rated sponge filter in a 10 gallon tank...

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Wow beautiful endlers I have interestingly enough found them to be jumpers inside my tank but not outside in stock tank which is weird . I keep blackbar endlers .