Is This A Good Setup For Guppies

[thezodiac]

You could get a replacement fish, but please don't. It's not the fault of the LFS that it died. Just wait until your tank is nicely cycled before getting any more.
And I don't know who doesn't "do anywhere near as much" but they probably don't spend a lot of time on this forum

That's a debatable point... Making a sale and telling people that they can just put the fish in immediately without properly preparing the tank, or teaching the person how to do a fish-in cycle just to ensure that they make a sale is akin to a puppy mill. It isn't about the welfare of the animals, but about making a sale.

yeah i would have to agree of course ill accept taking some blame for not doing a ton of research before hand but youd think that they would have at least mentioned cycling (which they didn't)

 

[thezodiac]

The simplest statement about replacing fish during a fish-in cycle is don't do it. Since most people in a fish-in cycle got there by accident, they almost always have too may fish for easy success. The ones that you lose will reduce the load to something easier to maintain. If you replace any fish, you have made your work as hard as it was before you lost them the first time. Waiting until the cycle is finished is a good idea before adding back any fish.

thanks

 

[jkilby]

Are you talking US or UK gallons, as 10 US is effectively 37 litres, however 10 UK gallons is 45 litres. As said in a previous thread 1 litre of water is 1kg in weight, so in water alone in UK gallons you are up to 100lbs in weight, on top of that there is the weight of the tank and it's technical bits and your substrate will crank the overall weight up. Remember though a 10 gallon tank will not hold ten gallons of water, unless that tank has nothing in it, as the substrate and other bits will displace the water. My 200 litre tank only holds 180 litres of water because of all the other bits and bobs. I would always suggest going for a cabinet designed for tanks personally, as the last thing you want is it all going pear-shaped because the base couldn't cope, but if budget is a factor, there are ways to re-enforce and bulk up a non specific base.

 

[This Old Spouse]

Are you talking US or UK gallons, as 10 US is effectively 37 litres, however 10 UK gallons is 45 litres. As said in a previous thread 1 litre of water is 1kg in weight, so in water alone in UK gallons you are up to 100lbs in weight, on top of that there is the weight of the tank and it's technical bits and your substrate will crank the overall weight up. Remember though a 10 gallon tank will not hold ten gallons of water, unless that tank has nothing in it, as the substrate and other bits will displace the water. My 200 litre tank only holds 180 litres of water because of all the other bits and bobs. I would always suggest going for a cabinet designed for tanks personally, as the last thing you want is it all going pear-shaped because the base couldn't cope, but if budget is a factor, there are ways to re-enforce and bulk up a non specific base.

eh?

 

[thezodiac]

Are you talking US or UK gallons, as 10 US is effectively 37 litres, however 10 UK gallons is 45 litres. As said in a previous thread 1 litre of water is 1kg in weight, so in water alone in UK gallons you are up to 100lbs in weight, on top of that there is the weight of the tank and it's technical bits and your substrate will crank the overall weight up. Remember though a 10 gallon tank will not hold ten gallons of water, unless that tank has nothing in it, as the substrate and other bits will displace the water. My 200 litre tank only holds 180 litres of water because of all the other bits and bobs. I would always suggest going for a cabinet designed for tanks personally, as the last thing you want is it all going pear-shaped because the base couldn't cope, but if budget is a factor, there are ways to re-enforce and bulk up a non specific base.

im referring to US gallons.

 

[thezodiac]

today i did a 50% water change and am going to try to use nutrafin cycle to speed things up a bit. (got water levels tested and had really high levels of amonia and a tiny amount on nitrate maybe nitrite)

im not really sure if it works or not but i figure its worth a shot. the guy actually knew what he was talking about fortunately so ill take his word for it.

guppies are still looking healthy however my bettas not looking good =(

 

[eaglesaquarium]

today i did a 50% water change and am going to try to use nutrafin cycle to speed things up a bit. (got water levels tested and had really high levels of amonia and a tiny amount on nitrate maybe nitrite)

im not really sure if it works or not but i figure its worth a shot. the guy actually knew what he was talking about fortunately so ill take his word for it.

guppies are still looking healthy however my bettas not looking good =(

Did he mention if using Cycle will need to be a regular part of your routine, or is it supposed to work from an initial dosing regimen and then be cycled?



Please post your stats to the Bacterial Additives thread, so that it can be tracked along with some other product trials.

 

[thezodiac]

today i did a 50% water change and am going to try to use nutrafin cycle to speed things up a bit. (got water levels tested and had really high levels of amonia and a tiny amount on nitrate maybe nitrite)

im not really sure if it works or not but i figure its worth a shot. the guy actually knew what he was talking about fortunately so ill take his word for it.

guppies are still looking healthy however my bettas not looking good =(

Did he mention if using Cycle will need to be a regular part of your routine, or is it supposed to work from an initial dosing regimen and then be cycled?

edit: instructions also say to use it once weekly to "maintain your bacteria colony"
more likely then not they want you to use it weekly to buy more and raise their profits



Please post your stats to the Bacterial Additives thread, so that it can be tracked along with some other product trials.

on the instructions is says that you should use it with water changes too, but he told me you pretty much just need to use it initially.

so im gonna follow his instructions and in a week go get the water checked out and report my results.

 

[eaglesaquarium]

on the instructions is says that you should use it with water changes too, but he told me you pretty much just need to use it initially.

so im gonna follow his instructions and in a week go get the water checked out and report my results.

You should really invest in a test kit. Ammonia and nitrite in a new tank should be tested daily... more often if there is a problem.

 

[thezodiac]

on the instructions is says that you should use it with water changes too, but he told me you pretty much just need to use it initially.

so im gonna follow his instructions and in a week go get the water checked out and report my results.

You should really invest in a test kit. Ammonia and nitrite in a new tank should be tested daily... more often if there is a problem.

how expensive are they? and which one would u recommend?

 

[eaglesaquarium]

on the instructions is says that you should use it with water changes too, but he told me you pretty much just need to use it initially.

so im gonna follow his instructions and in a week go get the water checked out and report my results.

You should really invest in a test kit. Ammonia and nitrite in a new tank should be tested daily... more often if there is a problem.

how expensive are they? and which one would u recommend?

It depends on where you get them. Most people on this board use the API Master kit (Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH, and high pH). At the LFS, I've seen them at $32 or so, but I just got one from fosterandsmithaquatics.com for about $17, and shipping is free on orders over $49. I think the shipping is $6 otherwise. So, that would be a better deal, even with shipping. I just put an order in to them on Saturday (right before Easter) and the package came today! I've got a lot of things to do this weekend, when I get home!


Bacterial additive trial coming up...

 

[thezodiac]

hey you guys ive decided to get a 10 gallon acquarium and could use some help (would like to do everything properly this time. if you wouldnt mind i could use some help
(basically like what kind of filter/bulbs/etc)

link to thread: http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/359681-buying-a-10-gallon-tank-help-top-fin-10-gallon/