Is This A Crowntail?

Hi Syphoniera...Thanks for the suggestion. Ordering from WalMart won't be an option that I trust. I do know a guy who owns an out of town store, whom I do trust. I may mention this to him, and get suggestions. He could also order whatever I want, as far as females are concerned. My Sororiety girls are probably just veiltails, or maybe Crowntails. I can't get a definite consensus on that. I do feel a responsibility now, that I don't normally feel. I've never considered breeding bettas, as it seems to be quite a commitment, with all those babies, all of which require daily water changes! Add that to my eight tanks, and you get the picture!!! I also worry that Robin is a WalMart fish, subjected to God knows what, during the shipping. I find that pet store Bettas are prone to illness. I'm checking him several times a day...looking for something! It's easier having an ordinary fish...but he is AMAZING to watch!!! Thanks for helping....


I can empathize.
Better you than me: you'll do well.
While I'd love to have fish like Robin, I wouldn't want the responsibility of having a rare type with high potential.
And I do understand the multi-tank-plus-babycare thing, speaking as one who has 10 tanks going right now, (although nearly half are 5 gal or even smaller) with a couple more (currently depressingly empty) ones to be set up (I hope) soon; I'd personally really rather not have to deal with that multi-cup thing...
And someday, perhaps, I'll buy some of the fruit of your efforts, providing the price of kidneys remains high...

No, ordering fish from WalMart doesn't sound like a reasonable choice - I was hoping it was someplace you might be able to get info so as to track the breeder, or some females from the line; and while I don't know what island you're on, I was thinking perhaps it might turn out to be a local breeder somewhere accessable.

I doubt babbling counts as help - but holy cow! what a cool fish! - and I do appreciate the tact.
Hope the fishing's fun.
Kind of a reversal, what with you hooking a fish, rather than vice versa...
 
Lemme guess - 8 ray CT?

COME ON MODAZ! Stop being an ass! lol seriously this is the biggest bunch of betta nuts you're gonna find, if you can't brag to us then what's the point?
no no no and more no :lol: sorry!!!!! :hey: I will give you a clue though it involves the 4 ray gene and *** ******* ***** when ive got the fry old enough im gunna have 2 lines going, gunna cross these fry into a **** to see what result i get. Already got one line to be used grown out already.
 
yarr he is gorgous!!! if you can try to buy a female with the half sun linage, that is a half moon crossed witha ct, try to get one with a wide spread as plossible and as many rays as possible, if not that them a hm female with tons of extensions, try 6 or more ..or a ct female with as many rays as possible,, at least 4 would be nice thought ive never seen more that that.

hi modaz!!!!
 
Lemme guess - 8 ray CT?

COME ON MODAZ! Stop being an ass! lol seriously this is the biggest bunch of betta nuts you're gonna find, if you can't brag to us then what's the point?
no no no and more no :lol: sorry!!!!! :hey: I will give you a clue though it involves the 4 ray gene and *** ******* ***** when ive got the fry old enough im gunna have 2 lines going, gunna cross these fry into a **** to see what result i get. Already got one line to be used grown out already.



I probably just keep thinking 'Rosetail' because of the multi ray thing, and because I don't know a damn thing about either breeding or genetics...

But while you're giggling and helpless with laughter, one of us will get you, and your little secret,too. (Cackles with witch-like laughter and chokes)
 
Lemme guess - 8 ray CT?

COME ON MODAZ! Stop being an ass! lol seriously this is the biggest bunch of betta nuts you're gonna find, if you can't brag to us then what's the point?
no no no and more no :lol: sorry!!!!! :hey: I will give you a clue though it involves the 4 ray gene and *** ******* ***** when ive got the fry old enough im gunna have 2 lines going, gunna cross these fry into a **** to see what result i get. Already got one line to be used grown out already.



I probably just keep thinking 'Rosetail' because of the multi ray thing, and because I don't know a damn thing about either breeding or genetics...

But while you're giggling and helpless with laughter, one of us will get you, and your little secret,too. (Cackles with witch-like laughter and chokes)
:hyper: it not a pure tail its a hybrid that holds 2 main sets of genetics that im using.
 
Lemme guess - 8 ray CT?

COME ON MODAZ! Stop being an ass! lol seriously this is the biggest bunch of betta nuts you're gonna find, if you can't brag to us then what's the point?
no no no and more no :lol: sorry!!!!! :hey: I will give you a clue though it involves the 4 ray gene and *** ******* ***** when ive got the fry old enough im gunna have 2 lines going, gunna cross these fry into a **** to see what result i get. Already got one line to be used grown out already.



I probably just keep thinking 'Rosetail' because of the multi ray thing, and because I don't know a damn thing about either breeding or genetics...

But while you're giggling and helpless with laughter, one of us will get you, and your little secret,too. (Cackles with witch-like laughter and chokes)
:hyper: it not a pure tail its a hybrid that holds 2 main sets of genetics that im using.


Sneaky devil. :devil: :ninja: bet that's the cross.
Yours, anyway, lol.
 
Well, I've decided that researching Betta genetics holds little interest for me. I've gone a little cross-eyed with the information overload. Think I'm going to close my eyes and pick one of my present females... :crazy:
 
very nice fish :D I got a betta very similar to him just a bit bluer :p. I hope you can find the right females to mate him with, those babies would be awesome :) post up a few pics of the females once you get them.
 
I decided to contact a Canadian breeder today, and order a female...I've just heard back, and I'm absolutely "flabbergasted!!!!" She says, after looking at the pic, that she wouldn't breed him at all, as she thinks he's a surgically altered fish!!! I think I've heard it all now!!! She says a WalMart fish is not worth breeding! I'm not necessarily taking her word for it. There seems to be no stock available, here, until the weather warms again in the spring. I have wasted so much time on this!!! :crazy: I haven't told Robin, yet, as I think he was looking forward to a little female company!!!
 
I decided to contact a Canadian breeder today, and order a female...I've just heard back, and I'm absolutely "flabbergasted!!!!" She says, after looking at the pic, that she wouldn't breed him at all, as she thinks he's a surgically altered fish!!! I think I've heard it all now!!! She says a WalMart fish is not worth breeding! I'm not necessarily taking her word for it. There seems to be no stock available, here, until the weather warms again in the spring. I have wasted so much time on this!!! :crazy: I haven't told Robin, yet, as I think he was looking forward to a little female company!!!
ROFL surgically altered :lol:

that would take some skill :rolleyes:
 
Actually it's not that far fetched unfortunately. Surgically altering fish is more common than is realised :angry: There was a link a while back to a site which explained how it is done. I think it was done alot within the showing brigade.
 
I suspect that she was just trying to sell you one of her 'non-surgically altered' males...LOL
 
I suspect that she was just trying to sell you one of her 'non-surgically altered' males...LOL
lmao, seriously though there is no way he is altered, if he was he wouldnt have the webbing between extensions
 
Actually, she has no stock available, and she says I'm unlikely to get anything right now, in Canada...I'm going out of town in the next month, and I may have a look at pet shop females, other than WalMart. I can hear the collective groan of all Betta breeders!!! :-( I did examine Robin, under magnification, and I really don't think he's been "altered"....if he was, the surgeon was very very good! I have to consider that I've never bred Bettas, never really wanted to breed, and breeding may not go as the book says. It's going to be a LOT of work, and I may have a LOT of fish babies. There's always the risk that Hubby will divorce me!!! I doubt there's much of a market here, for specialty bettas. I think most people here would just as soon go to WalMart for a pet Betta, and pay less. I can't really say I blame them...I've had four Bettas from Walmart, and was quite happy with all of them. I have to say that the fish dept. at our particular store, is pretty good. The manager is quite interested in keeping the fish healthy. All of the fish in my sig. came from there, and I seldom have problems. Anyway, I'll see where it goes. I would really be interested to see what Robin can produce though......and usually, when I start thinking about something fish related, it won't let me go, until I do it!!!
 

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