I Give Up With The Tail Biting!

ellena

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I think I'm out of options for trying to stop Lotus biting his tail. I bought him friends, pygmy cories and shrimp and he chased them which is why I think they died :(
He has floating plants now and is always making bubble nests in them. His tail has been growing back well from when he bit it when I put him in the new tank.
Then in the last couple of days, he's bitten it down to almost a stump again. I think this is the worst he's ever done it.
So, maybe he just doesn't like his long tail.
 
Sorry to hear that hon :( I have only ever had one tail biter and he stopped once I had received him.. Have you thought about a mirror for him to perhaps distract? Im really unsure what else you can try for him..
 
I know it might be silly but have you thought about moving his tank to a diff place? It might stop him for a few days?

Not sure what to advise tbh, maybe check out Ultimate bettas forum, it is a dedicated forum for Betta owners. You might find more helpful suggestions, being that their community is solely fixed on that one breed.

Sorry mods if that is inappropriate to mention another forum, just thought it might help :blush:
 
Have you tried adding an Indian almond leaf to the tank? Long shot, but maybe it's worth a try
 
I know it might be silly but have you thought about moving his tank to a diff place? It might stop him for a few days?

Not sure what to advise tbh, maybe check out Ultimate bettas forum, it is a dedicated forum for Betta owners. You might find more helpful suggestions, being that their community is solely fixed on that one breed.

Sorry mods if that is inappropriate to mention another forum, just thought it might help :blush:
2nd the idea of moving him to a new spot in your residence. One of mine (a veil tail) bits his too. It'll grow back and then he chops it down again. We're moving and the tanks are going last, so right now he's by himself in my son's bedroom and after a few days that way, went ballistic on his tail and now half is missing. I may move his tank to the living room for more stimulation.
 
Yeah, mine ripped a bunch of his tail off, and now he even has some fin rot it seems! I'll try some of the suggestions here, and obviously do water changes to help with the fin rot.
 
Thanks guys :) I've tried the mirror/plastic fish to stimulate him. Tried him in a different tank in a different location, then moved that tank to another location, then a new tank altogether. He's always had indian almond leaf.
He's fine for weeks, then off he goes again, so it's not constant.
I tried a post on the other forum and they gave me lots of suggestions, but none of them have worked either. I have floating plants in case the light is too bright, and he makes nests amongst them.
I was worried initially in case he was stressed, but it seems this is just how he is [sigh]
 
How big is your tank? Was thinking if you could divide it up, would you be willing to put female bettas in with him?
 
It's a 5 gall, so not big enough for females too.
 
Sad thing is, once they start tail biting, it's very unlikely that they will stop :sad:
 
is there any way you could sit the two males tanks together allowing them to see each other? might distact him for a while

if he knows theres another male about he may stop to make himself look bigger than the other male
 
The other male I have is kept at work. Up until a few weeks ago though, I did have 2 at home and I tried sitting them next to each other but it made no difference. In fact, when I swapped tanks, the other one, which had never touched his tail previously, started biting too :crazy: Then he got what I think was columnaris and died :-(
 
aw sorry to hear that ellena :sad: hopefully someone else that has experience with tail bitters will have another idea
 
I found this whilst looking for something else; it probably isn't all that useful but I found it quite interesting....
(I've included the copyright at the bottom just in case).


Tail-Biting -- Why do bettas do it, and is it genetic?
By: Victoria Parnell
Submitted: 3/30/2006
One of the most disappointing things that can happen when you have fish shipped to you is opening that long-awaited box just to find out that your gorgeous, long-finned male betta is missing half of his tail.

So what the heck happened?? And is there anything that could have been done to prevent it?

The first thing you have to realize is that, usually, your betta did this to himself and most sellers can't take responsibility for what your fish does to his own fins while in transit. I'm not sure anyone really knows why bettas bite their fins, but based on common sense and experience we can wager a fairly accurate guess.

I've found in most cases that a male that chews his own tail is reacting to a stressful situation. This is why you most commonly see it in bettas that have been shipped through the mail, or those that have been left uncarded for too long. During shipment a betta is in complete blackness, in a very small space, and doesn't know what any of it is all about. On top of that, he's no doubt being handled very roughly. Because of the limited space in a shipping bag, the fins are being swirled around the betta's face, and he is in especially close proximity to the caudal fin when he turns around in the bag. It is almost understandable in that situation that he might reach out and grab hold of an object that brushes past his nose, not realizing it is his own tail. Tail biting during shipping happens primarily to very voluminous longfinned males (in other words, the ones that we most want to NOT damage their tails!), but I've seen it happen to females and plakats on occasion. In every instance, these had fins longer than was normal for their sex/type.

Bettas that are kept carded are also notorious for chewing off their own tails if they are suddenly placed in extended contact with another male betta. Sometimes it is an extreme aggressive reaction when the fish is unable to reach the other male and bites his own tail in frustration. In many cases the betta will actually eat the bitten portion, but sometimes you will only find pieces of the tail on the bottom of his jar.

Bettas kept in very strong artificial or natural light for prolonged periods of time may also react by biting their tails, and I believe they do it out of a similar reaction to being shipped: stress, blindness, and confusion. A betta's eyes are designed to see certain spectrums of color and movement in a very subtly-lit environment. Bright light makes them feel exposed and increases stress.

So, what can be done?

A bitten tail is an open wound, and vulnerable to infection. While your fish is healing, you should make sure he is kept in very clean water. I don't usually recommend medicating as a preventative, but a tiny bit of Melafix in the first few days will usually do wonders for encouraging new growth and preventing fungus or harmful bacteria from infecting the wound. Keeping the fish in a strong Indian Almond leaf infusion will have a similar effect, and the added bonus of keeping the fish pacified to prevent further damage.

There is really nothing you can do to stop your betta from biting his tail if he is so inclined, but there are a few things you can do to lessen the probability of occurance. Large-finned males seem less likely to damage their tails if they are shipped in larger bags with greater water capacity. Putting a small piece of Indian Almond leaf in their bags will seep beneficial tannins into the water that seem to calm them and make them less likely to succumb to stress. If you keep your bettas carded, try not to expose them to other males for longer than a few hours per day. Keep you fishroom dimly-lit, only exposing your betta to bright light if he is being examined or photographed.

There has been some speculation that the tendency for a betta to bite its own tail is genetic, and there might be something to that. You certainly do not often see a veiltail betta with self-mutilation, even though they go through much more stress, on average, than your showy HMs. Along with their fuller, longer fins modern show types may have inherited a predisposition toward nervousness and extreme reactions to stress. It would be interesting to see if the trait could be bred out by excluding known tail-biters from your breeding program. Its a fact that most tail biters are being used as breeding fish, since breeder-hobbyists can usually purchase them far more reasonably than unbitten males from the same spawn, and are not as reluctant to have them damaged while spawning. I myself have been guilty of throwing a big, showy male right into spawn as soon as he shreds his own tail, and I'm not alone. Breeders may be unknowingly perpetuating this trait, increasing the percentage of beautiful tail biters in the betta community. Something to think about!

A bitten tail should not be confused with a 'blown' tail. When a male is described as 'blowing' his fins, it is a term associated with the curious abberation that occurs in some heavily-finned males that are swimming or flaring too hard. The webbing between the rays develops pin holes and the ends of the tail begin to fray, like an old flag that has been whipping around in the wind. In extreme cases the caudal fin completely disintegrates, leaving the betta with spikey ray extensions and no webbing to speak of. In its milder form, tail blowing can cause the fins...all three unpaired fins, not necessarily just the caudal...to split along the ray in several places. Treatment for these fish is the same as for tail biting; clean water and watch for infection. Bettas with fin damage are more vulnerable to bacterial and fungal fin rot.

Bacterial and fungal fin rot also damage the fins, but it looks far different. You can observe fin rot gradually eroding away the fins in a fairly smooth and uniform pattern until the fish is left with nothing but stumps. There is usually a black or red edge in fin rot cases, and these should be treated immediately if you wish to stop the progress of the disease. If you have a fish with damaged fins watch carefully for the beginning of a red edge to the wound. If you catch it early enough, a few days' worth of treatments with Melafix will clear the problem up before it becomes a major hassle for you and your betta.

Although it's not pretty and can be disappointing, with proper care a bitten tail will heal within weeks and often return to its former glory.

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