then i vac the gravel loads, then i use a big siphoning tube to suck the gravel up, this way it helps to keep the water clean and not get full of muck.
ahh in my system and that mentioned by wolf in the linked sticky, we are trying to keep of much of the gunk as we can this, after all, is where the substrate bacteria is held. keeping it helps avoid mini cycles. obviously if you keep your substrate spotless, there would be no need to do so, but if you did, there would not be any muck to muddy the water anyway! personally i find it better to play safe, especially when giving advice to others. both systems do work, however only one, is prone to mini cycle problems.