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TwoTankAmin
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Does this help?
Holy Moley- is it possible???????
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Looks like a small clown loach to me - what does it look like to you ? Hum - seriously fish does have a picture of a dension barb fry BUT in that picture the blacklines do not go all the way down like they do in that picture but who knows for sure. I guess another 4 months and you will know for sure
fishorama
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Maybe you have both loach & barb fry? Your 1st pic looked more loach shaped with a very downward mouth & curved forehead shape. Your latest pic looks more like the seriously fish barb pics, a more forward mouth & barblike head shape & coloring. Bigger looking eyes in the last too. Hard to say since seriously doesn't tell what size the barb fry are to compare with yours. The smallest clowns I've seen were over an inch.
Maybe your bro can set up his phone to remotely take pics while no scary people are near. A video would be very cool too, also possible with a smart phone I think. Try leaving him some fruit & nut snacks to encourage him to help, lol.
Either species or both, I hope for more pics often. A testament to your "magic" well water & your good husbandry.
Maybe your bro can set up his phone to remotely take pics while no scary people are near. A video would be very cool too, also possible with a smart phone I think. Try leaving him some fruit & nut snacks to encourage him to help, lol.
Either species or both, I hope for more pics often. A testament to your "magic" well water & your good husbandry.
You're only going to know if you raise them. I think that's a densison's barb, but.
Forget the markings and look at the shape. That said, it's 50% I'm wrong.
Forget the markings and look at the shape. That said, it's 50% I'm wrong.
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TwoTankAmin
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I do not use a smart phone and my digicam is older. I never learned how to shoot vids with it. My brother only got a smart phone in the last year. I hear him cursing a lot when he uses it.
I am OK with the camera for the reasons I use it. I have lots of good pics but they are usually taken in much smaller tanks/set-ups. In fact I size the fish I sell using a specimen box with a grid under it. I measure the fish down to he 1/8 inch this way. As you can see, the image is pretty clear.
I often print out the pic and then getting the exact size is simple. Those squares are one square inch. There are 8 divisions breaking the big square into 1/8 inch segments. So, if I then measure a fish to get the total length, I can then place the ruler on the grid and it tells me the exact length. If the fish cooperate and line up properly I can size without having yo use a ruler. The fish in the lower left of the above pic is 1.75 in. TL The box on the left end id only 4.3 inch and the nose of the fish is slightly over the left end as his nose goes up the side a bit. Its tail is just short of the 1 inch line. Having done this sort of measuring a lot, I know if I straightened out the fish it would be 1.75 inches.
As you can see the pictures is clear and in focus. But this is a lot different than trying to shoot a 1/2 to 3/4 in. fry in a 125 gal tank where that fry almost never stops moving. But the time I can get it in focus when it pauses it has moved most of the time. Also the lighting is not designed for taking pics it is designed to be right for the plants etc. in the tank. Btw the fish in the measuring box are Hypancistrus L173.
if I could catch themystery fry in the 125, I could get better pics. But. I am pretty sure the babies are not being eaten. I spotted one in the main area of the task this morning in the few minutes I spent looking. it looks like the fry are managing to evade that danger or else the fish are not interested in eating fry, So I am hoping time is on my side here. There are also many babies behind the divider. I opened a way in and out at the bottom of the foam. None of the big fish in the tank can get through it.
As for parameters - my tap water is generally in the 7.0 pH range and the water is soft. However, the parameters are subject to change as the result of rainfall amounts in the more recent past. I have measured the TDS from the tap as low as 53 ppm during times of excessive rains and snow. But during periods of drought the TDS can rise into the 115-120 ppm range. Similarly. if have seen the pH being close to 6.8 and as high as 7.3. However, the changes are not usually rapid, the occur over months when they happen. But under normal conditions they will be pretty steady at pH 7.0 and TDS of 83 ppm. I run the temp in the clown tank in the 78-80F range, I know this is on the high side for the redlines. But they seem to do OK. I got my very first ones in about 2005. Ever since I have had a group in at least one tank. I think I am on my third group at this time. The last two were imports I got when picking up from the transshipper for Rachel O. aka msjinkzd
I have had clowns since 2003 but not all of what I have today were acquired then. I have had ttoo many at times and sent some to fishy friends. I have also lost a couple over the years. But the two I know would be the spawners I have had almost that long.
I will continue trying to get decent pictures. The bigger the fish get the easier that will become. I will keep posting in this thread until the situation of what species is resolved. The problme her is we are dealing with a 5 goot planted community tanks and when I am ctively trying to breed a species it is always in a mych smaller tank and it will only hold the sungle species. When I need to catch fish I will first use a poret sheet to dived the tank. That way a 20L is two 15 inch wide spaced and a 33L becomes a pair of 2 foot tanks. it makes things a lot easier that way.
I am OK with the camera for the reasons I use it. I have lots of good pics but they are usually taken in much smaller tanks/set-ups. In fact I size the fish I sell using a specimen box with a grid under it. I measure the fish down to he 1/8 inch this way. As you can see, the image is pretty clear.
I often print out the pic and then getting the exact size is simple. Those squares are one square inch. There are 8 divisions breaking the big square into 1/8 inch segments. So, if I then measure a fish to get the total length, I can then place the ruler on the grid and it tells me the exact length. If the fish cooperate and line up properly I can size without having yo use a ruler. The fish in the lower left of the above pic is 1.75 in. TL The box on the left end id only 4.3 inch and the nose of the fish is slightly over the left end as his nose goes up the side a bit. Its tail is just short of the 1 inch line. Having done this sort of measuring a lot, I know if I straightened out the fish it would be 1.75 inches.
As you can see the pictures is clear and in focus. But this is a lot different than trying to shoot a 1/2 to 3/4 in. fry in a 125 gal tank where that fry almost never stops moving. But the time I can get it in focus when it pauses it has moved most of the time. Also the lighting is not designed for taking pics it is designed to be right for the plants etc. in the tank. Btw the fish in the measuring box are Hypancistrus L173.
if I could catch themystery fry in the 125, I could get better pics. But. I am pretty sure the babies are not being eaten. I spotted one in the main area of the task this morning in the few minutes I spent looking. it looks like the fry are managing to evade that danger or else the fish are not interested in eating fry, So I am hoping time is on my side here. There are also many babies behind the divider. I opened a way in and out at the bottom of the foam. None of the big fish in the tank can get through it.
As for parameters - my tap water is generally in the 7.0 pH range and the water is soft. However, the parameters are subject to change as the result of rainfall amounts in the more recent past. I have measured the TDS from the tap as low as 53 ppm during times of excessive rains and snow. But during periods of drought the TDS can rise into the 115-120 ppm range. Similarly. if have seen the pH being close to 6.8 and as high as 7.3. However, the changes are not usually rapid, the occur over months when they happen. But under normal conditions they will be pretty steady at pH 7.0 and TDS of 83 ppm. I run the temp in the clown tank in the 78-80F range, I know this is on the high side for the redlines. But they seem to do OK. I got my very first ones in about 2005. Ever since I have had a group in at least one tank. I think I am on my third group at this time. The last two were imports I got when picking up from the transshipper for Rachel O. aka msjinkzd
I have had clowns since 2003 but not all of what I have today were acquired then. I have had ttoo many at times and sent some to fishy friends. I have also lost a couple over the years. But the two I know would be the spawners I have had almost that long.
I will continue trying to get decent pictures. The bigger the fish get the easier that will become. I will keep posting in this thread until the situation of what species is resolved. The problme her is we are dealing with a 5 goot planted community tanks and when I am ctively trying to breed a species it is always in a mych smaller tank and it will only hold the sungle species. When I need to catch fish I will first use a poret sheet to dived the tank. That way a 20L is two 15 inch wide spaced and a 33L becomes a pair of 2 foot tanks. it makes things a lot easier that way.
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