Holy! Help?

[Ben]

"e. pH in big tank is 0.0"
*sniff* *sniff*
It smells like someone who is lying.
You can't possibly have a PH of 0.0.
And even if you did(unlikley) that would porbably be the reason your fish died.

DD

 

[steelhealr]

My thoughts...both similar species fish died implying that something affected them both. Both are algae eaters. That tank, from the one view, looks spartan. Although not feeding them for 2 days is an unlikely eitology for what killed them, it may be possible that they were slowly starving. Either that or they were both susceptible to a parasite or bacteria. I think the former is more probable. We also know that danios are extremely hardy fish. Sorry for your loss. I have the same fish. SH

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

a. There is excess food all across the gravel, shall I swirl the water around and take a picture so you can see it all floating up?
b. The test was taken before the fish were put in, not after.
c. There were cherry barbs in it, as said above.
d. The nitrate in the big tank is 23ppm.
e. pH in big tank is 0.0

And I don't know if my test kits are right.. I use this test kit, is that an accurate one or do you know?

I don't know what the problem is, I already found out why they died.

a. Remove all the excess food imediatly, you should have done that as soon as you got back, ammonia is always more concentrated at the bottom of the tank which is partly why so many bottom dwelling fish are so sensitive to even the smallest fluctuations in ammonia, the rotting food would also have made the ideal conditions for growing deseases like columnaris, fish TB, fish fungus and internal bacteria.
b. You should have tested the water stats after the fish were put in and not before as this is when the tank is most likely to experience water stat fluctions, after the tank bioload had increased- can you give us some recent stats?
c. Even if the tank was cycled, thats alot of fish to just add in all at once and could hav eeasily caused the tank to mini cycle.
d. fine nitrate readings there.
e. Its near imposible to have a PH that low, those results simply cannot be correct. Since you don't realy know wether the PH fluctuated in the tank its difficult to rule out wether PH shock also contributed towards the fish's deaths.

Apart from getting new test kits and making sure you are using them correctly, keep doing those water changes with dechlorinator on a very regular basis and watch you fish's behavior and appearance closely in every aspect to make sure there are no deseases growing in the tank unoticed.
Its hard to say what happened here- although most likely a number of events that contributed to the fish's deaths i.e overfeeding, adding large numbers of fish at once to a tank and water quality issues, but now what we need to do is to help prevent the same thing happening again.

 

[CFC]

Flying foxes are low oxygen enviroment intollerant, meaning they need a tank with a high oxygen content to survive. Hex tanks with their low surface area have poor oxygen levels, leaving the flying foxes in there over the weekend would easily have killed them as there would not be enough oxygen for them to survive.

 

[Clairel]

Im sure the largest Hex tank you can get is a 90 Litre?? Forgive me if im wrong, as i have one, and they told me it was the biggest size they made in the hex range.....

C x

 

[thelastbetta]

a. There is excess food all across the gravel, shall I swirl the water around and take a picture so you can see it all floating up?
b. The test was taken before the fish were put in, not after.
c. There were cherry barbs in it, as said above.
d. The nitrate in the big tank is 23ppm.
e. pH in big tank is 0.0

And I don't know if my test kits are right.. I use this test kit, is that an accurate one or do you know?

I don't know what the problem is, I already found out why they died.

a. Remove all the excess food imediatly, you should have done that as soon as you got back, ammonia is always more concentrated at the bottom of the tank which is partly why so many bottom dwelling fish are so sensitive to even the smallest fluctuations in ammonia, the rotting food would also have made the ideal conditions for growing deseases like columnaris, fish TB, fish fungus and internal bacteria.
b. You should have tested the water stats after the fish were put in and not before as this is when the tank is most likely to experience water stat fluctions, after the tank bioload had increased- can you give us some recent stats?
c. Even if the tank was cycled, thats alot of fish to just add in all at once and could hav eeasily caused the tank to mini cycle.
d. fine nitrate readings there.
e. Its near imposible to have a PH that low, those results simply cannot be correct. Since you don't realy know wether the PH fluctuated in the tank its difficult to rule out wether PH shock also contributed towards the fish's deaths.

Apart from getting new test kits and making sure you are using them correctly, keep doing those water changes with dechlorinator on a very regular basis and watch you fish's behavior and appearance closely in every aspect to make sure there are no deseases growing in the tank unoticed.
Its hard to say what happened here- although most likely a number of events that contributed to the fish's deaths i.e overfeeding, adding large numbers of fish at once to a tank and water quality issues, but now what we need to do is to help prevent the same thing happening again.

a. there isn't even any fish in there right now. the whole tank is going to be cleaned in the next couple of days.
b. no because there is no water in it right now.
c. two fish are not a lot compared to the eleven cherry barbs.
d. ok.
e. yes sorry. I confused pH with ammonnia while typing it down. the pH is 6.0 (in the big tank)

And Clairel, you're probably right but my hex isn't bigger then 90 gallons.

Thanks for the info CFC, but they were only in there for a day or so.

 

[Bloo]

And Clairel, you're probably right but my hex isn't bigger then 90 gallons

uhm she said 90 liters and not 90 gallons - huge difference. I'm sorry but there's just way too much confilicting information here to actually give you any constructive helpful feedback and you keep throwing curve balls You really have to start giving some factual bare bones information to us if you want constructive feedback. It's too confusing and contradictory......

 

[thelastbetta]

Sorry. Read it wrong.

Anyways. What's so confusing? All I'm doing is answering asked questions.

 

[Jer-]

 

[kat and james]

hows about to clear up all the confusion we start over.. you could reprovide the information (about the tank that the fish were in when they died... making sure to check it before you post to erradicate any errors)

so we need
tank mates
pH
nitrites
nitrates
ammonia
gh
kh
temperature

and finally the actual tank size!!!

and you could provide the info of the tnak that they were in normally
same info again!!

hopefully getting straight info will help everyone find out what actaully happened to your fish, rather than everyone getting super confused and angry!!

just a suggestion!!

 

[black angel]

CFC got it, they suffocated. It wouldnt take long for it to happen either. How long would you last without an adequate oxygen supply?

 

[thelastbetta]

CFC got it, they suffocated. It wouldnt take long for it to happen either. How long would you last without an adequate oxygen supply?

Erm. I doubt they suffocated. My friend had a fox in a 5 gallon tank for five months before it died.

 

[daddyfish]

The fish in your first pic looks as though it had been Attacked and eaten by it's Tank Mates.

The Second one I really couldn't tell.

At least that is what I thought until I read of the Other Tankmates. I have never known of Dainos to ever do let alone be able to take out other Fish, No matter How Crazy they may have been, But anything is possiable.

You wouldn't happen to have any cats around would you?
Many will tell you Cats Hate water, while this is for the most part true, I had one that took out a Lionhead Goldfish I had, a few years back, through the small space by the Filter Other then that the tank was covered.

I also had in a 55gal one time a I forget the name of the Pleco Speices I had but he was Spotted and looked almost like He had armor plating on him.
And he use to like hanging out in a cave I had in the tank, He was in with about a dozen Tiger Barbs that was it.

Never Noticed the Barbs bother him, I hadn't seen him for a few days, even though that wasn't odd considering they don't come out much during the day.
But anyhow!!!

I went looking for him in the tank and found him in the cave Upside down, with only the Shell of him left, The GUTS and all had been eaten, He was cleaner then any Chicken Bone has ever been, That my Wife has eaten on.
And believe me this Girl can eat her chicken.

Sorry for your Loss, I know it's never easy>>>

I just thought this may have been something possiable???

 

[jimbooo]

Hi thelastbetta, my 2 cents worth.

the suffocation theory is correct they "in theory" could not last 2 days in that tank without major oxygenating plants or an airstone.

on top of that your neighbour over fed causing a mini cycle. the ammonia and nitrite could have easily spiked while you were away and dropped again by the time you returned to test the water.

the 2 factors combined would have killed the fish. sorry for your loss.