Google's AI is still broken

[anewbie]

We DO NOT have stupid kids any more than when we were kids. We have kids that are in turmoil and don't know what to do. Today's kids are not stupid but many are ignorant. There is a big difference. Ignorance means that you don't have the knowledge. Stupid means that you have no interest in gaining knowledge. Most kids want to gain knowledge but, as adults, we are too busy with our lives to give from the heart what they really need.

At 71 my generation is largely to blame for this as it is my generation that largely took away the right of parents and teachers to discipline a child. Without being disciplined how can we expect a child to have discipline within themselves?

It is a sad situation when a child has no one to look to for guidance but, sadly, that is too often the case. The result is that today's kids look more to peers than their parents as the parents are just not there to give guidance. I don't put down today's kids; I pity them.

If I may I will put out a plea. Don't just feel that you know everything as you don't. Take time to actually sit and listen to your kid's issues. You MAY find that they are not really against you but just afraid as you are not there when needed.

OK, rant over but think about what I've said. The real problem is not our kids but ourselves.

I'm going to disagree. They associate success with good grades; not ability to think. The comment on ignorance vs stupid is imho a redhearing - it all amount to the same.

It isnt' new but a lot easier with computers and search engine and ai to skip the learning and thinking part to obtain good but hollow grades.

When i was in college which predated this crap (though of course computers we had); the greeks would keep old tests from years past and as many (not all) professors were quite lazy they would reuse questions on tests. Many of these folks would learn the answers to questions without context or understanding.

I took a history class where the professor was putting his old tests in the library. A friend of mine was getting straight A's while i was getting well a bit lower. I asked her one day how she did so well. She said i just looked at the tests in the library and memorize the answers.
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Now that is path to success and i suppose it sharpens certain skills but she was learning diddly about history or more precisely the history being taught in the class; though she did an excellent job of learning the history of his tests and how he reused questions. Did i change my way about learning this - no - i rather fail then memorize answers. Anyway she wasn't a bad student overall but it did raise my heckle about how many people at this university were learning (the greek part i learned later from another student in another class where the professor reused questions but gave TAKE HOME tests. That's right you could copy the answers from last year test at your leisure if you desired such a path. Turns out from the folks i chatted with a *lot* of students took this path (and i have to admit this other class which was math based had a pretty bad teacher - and not just because he reused the same test each year).

Now we can argue who was the dummy for not just copying tests in all their class and getting straight As or the person who finished with a 4.0 gpa but at least i could talk about how a particular teach was with a straight face

 

[jaylach]

I'm going to disagree. They associate success with good grades; not ability to think. The comment on ignorance vs stupid is imho a redhearing - it all amount to the same.

It isnt' new but a lot easier with computers and search engine and ai to skip the learning and thinking part to obtain good but hollow grades.

When i was in college which predated this crap (though of course computers we had); the greeks would keep old tests from years past and as many (not all) professors were quite lazy they would reuse questions on tests. Many of these folks would learn the answers to questions without context or understanding.

I took a history class where the professor was putting his old tests in the library. A friend of mine was getting straight A's while i was getting well a bit lower. I asked her one day how she did so well. She said i just looked at the tests in the library and memorize the answers.
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Now that is path to success and i suppose it sharpens certain skills but she was learning diddly about history or more precisely the history being taught in the class; though she did an excellent job of learning the history of his tests and how he reused questions. Did i change my way about learning this - no - i rather fail then memorize answers. Anyway she wasn't a bad student overall but it did raise my heckle about how many people at this university were learning (the greek part i learned later from another student in another class where the professor reused questions but gave TAKE HOME tests. That's right you could copy the answers from last year test at your leisure if you desired such a path. Turns out from the folks i chatted with a *lot* of students took this path (and i have to admit this other class which was math based had a pretty bad teacher - and not just because he reused the same test each year).

Now we can argue who was the dummy for not just copying tests in all their class and getting straight As or the person who finished with a 4.0 gpa but at least i could talk about how a particular teach was with a straight face

I believe we are of similar age but have different opinions. To be honest your entire post I quoted rads more like a denial of responsibility for our kid's actions. We, as parents, ARE responsible for our kid's actions.

 

[MattW]

Sadly, my last year of college was before the AI boom . If I had AI then. I wouldn't be here typing this, but rather sat on a yacht with a tequila shot

 

[jaylach]

Sadly, my last year of college was before the AI boom . If I had AI then. I wouldn't be here typing this, but rather sat on a yacht with a tequila shot

Really? If you had AI in your learning as a crutch I think it more likely that you would have been a failure as you would end up as just a bot following given instructions that actually taught nothing.

No insult intended; just my opinion.