AI has made Google Search lousy, IMO

[MaloK]

When governmental entities starts to be unable to tell you who is assigned to your case.

When you investigate more you get replied that it is because it's now a group that harness the decisions processing.

During the whole interaction you receive responses with a strong foreign accent. That are cold directed to same results.

You know, when you get the feeling that you're talking to someones who reads AI responses from their screen. And don't have a clue of what they are saying.

Loll.

 

[MaloK]

Computational capabilities have moved forward.

The exactitude of responses has climbed a lot and "one" General Language trainer passed the "last human test"

And performed 100% on more than 80 mastery science tests. That totaled more than 91 thousands questions.

Now, If that thing doesn't already know how to cure cancer or lead you to a solution is nearly impossible.

 

[GaryE]

The 'cure cancer' shows the limitations to me. We talk about cancer, but the diversity of different cancers and treatments is a lot for the human mind to grasp and improve upon. There is going to be a lot for this system to take in.

I'm becoming frustrated with the decline in my 'recreational googling'. I've been looking up information on an obscure group of fish I used to be able to find some info on - not a lot. I thought there might be more out there by now, but AI assisted google keeps correcting my search to more common things. AI is treating me like I'm stupid, and I have to use strategies to get around its dumbing down of searches. Luckily, we aren't all idiots yet and can do this if we care. If we don't care or don't yet know what we want to learn, we're steered to what IT knows, not what we want to learn.

When I first got online in the bad old days of the 1990s, a search about a rare fish usually returned a porn site. So it's not as bad as that, and hopefully AI will become more refined. Right now, it feels like a step backwards.

 

[anewbie]

The 'cure cancer' shows the limitations to me. We talk about cancer, but the diversity of different cancers and treatments is a lot for the human mind to grasp and improve upon. There is going to be a lot for this system to take in.

I'm becoming frustrated with the decline in my 'recreational googling'. I've been looking up information on an obscure group of fish I used to be able to find some info on - not a lot. I thought there might be more out there by now, but AI assisted google keeps correcting my search to more common things. AI is treating me like I'm stupid, and I have to use strategies to get around its dumbing down of searches. Luckily, we aren't all idiots yet and can do this if we care. If we don't care or don't yet know what we want to learn, we're steered to what IT knows, not what we want to learn.

When I first got online in the bad old days of the 1990s, a search about a rare fish usually returned a porn site. So it's not as bad as that, and hopefully AI will become more refined. Right now, it feels like a step backwards.

When i first got on the internet around 89 or 90 I don't think porn sites existed but of course there were porn newsfeed. I do remember a prof in late 94 calling me into their office to show me netscape - the prof had done his ph.d at uofi@urbana and had contacts with the group that developed the browser. Of course back then websites were limited and bw was also very limited. I remember the first internet worm - the machine i was using got slower and slower and a quick ps (unix command to see what process was running) showed that mail had gone goofy. Of course everything back then was a lot slower 'cept the phone which was about the same speed as it is today for those that still have a land line (i don't).

Oh well the good ol days; kind of miss acadmic life. Also as far as i can tell the 'ai' of today lacks the 'i' - it reminds me of expert systems of the 90s on steriod with the biggest problem is that it is unable to understand or learn semantics.

 

[MaloK]

It grasps a lot of semantics...

I trow off a "Houston..."... And it already responds "Oh! No. Not again... This must be...."

Then I reply "The Eagle has landed."

And it swirl 180. loll... I know it's monkey semantics... There's much to be learned.

But it's a lot better than a dumb web search.

 

[Jinx_]

I avoid google as much as possible, for different reasons. But AI just absolutely sucks and I hate it, and google's AI overview is just bad and wrong IME. I switched to Duck Duck Go, it's definitely better but workplace's wifi blocks it for some WONDERFUL reason

 

[jaylach]

I avoid google as much as possible, for different reasons. But AI just absolutely sucks and I hate it, and google's AI overview is just bad and wrong IME. I switched to Duck Duck Go, it's definitely better but workplace's wifi blocks it for some WONDERFUL reason

I have nothing Google on any of my systems as I just don't trust them. I use Bing but I'm about to disable Copilot. I haven't trusted Google since they got busted for 'fixing' security tests for Chrome when it came out so they could claim it was the most secure browser.

A while back I looked at Duck Duck Go but just didn't care for it.

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Thinking tonight it ,again, going to be Asian. It will either be pork or chicken as I have both thawed. Kind of leaning toward chicken. It will also include broccoli, red onion, bell pepper and a sauce. Not yet sure on what sauce but either orange, with fair heat, or sweet chili, mild heat. Will probably be over egg noodles but a rice/quinoa mix is also possible. Actually I just went to my fridge freezer for some ice and noticed a partial bag of pearl onions. Not a lot of them but some will also be included.

 

[MaloK]

Ai is not the only one gaining in the process, well used...

It's a Brick of reading for every queries... But in 2 weeks I'm working up the high config of Ubuntu server virtualization. while learning casual basic operations at the same time... Add to that the proxmox and truenas initial setup... And a couple good reminder on Hardware limitations...

Not a single Guru would not have queried external help at... At least 7 levels....

Gemini the cricket, is the most amazing tool for students in home labs at every level.

Besides giving the simple solutions and syntax correction in detail... like the manual page opens before you.... It really brought thinking material and made me find everything I need to have to reach that goal...

As a near complete linux illiterate, I'm starting to like it a lot. The efficiency is incomparable... Ok maybe not on the desktop side... But the servers are incredible. Not a single drivers was not exactly whats required.

 

[sharkweek178]

It's distressing to me how many people use AI as a research tool. And by that I mean only AI. They just accept what it says.
Here's an exercise I encourage everyone to try. Start a conversation with an AI about a topic that you know a lot about. Then start asking it questions that you know the answer to. See how much it gets wrong.
Here's a personal example. I decided to try to use ChatGPT to do some genealogy research on my own family tree. It got the grandparents on my mother's side correct. But it was wildly wrong on my father's side. I gave up. Because I understood that if it was this wrong on something relatively easy, then there's no way it would get anything any further back correct. And I wouldn't have any way to sort out the bad info from the good.
Research is like a lot of other things in that if you're doing it right, then it's not easy. My fishkeeping journey is an example. I visit a lot of websites. I watch a lot of videos. I've also had the good fortune of finding this site and having the people here as a great resource. That's not always the case online. There is a lot of bad info spread by people who fervently believe it. I've also read actual books on the subject. And I have my own experience to draw on now which helps to sort out the good from the bad.
AI doesn't do that. It just sort of does a cursory search of the internet. It's not capable of drawing on experience or making judgments.
I liken AI to a Wikipedia. It can be engrossing and, on the surface, informative. But it is far from authoritative.

 

[MaloK]

If the engine is unable to have enough cross reference the data will end discarded and not taken in consideration...

As for genealogy, on my father side even without AI, I'm able to trace the family up to it's beginning in Europe... But on my mother side... I would need serious research cause nothing comes up that matches.

All trainers will make errors. Lots of them... It's perfectly normal and why the disclaimer is right there all the time....

There's many factors used to assess what is the closest "answer" it gives, when the questions have very limited cross reference data, then the model will act poorly...

I was trying to construct an ipmi command to control how a card thermal protection triggers higher fan revolution.

I had to provide and find nearly 90% of the parameters and still had an argument as the syntax of the whole ipmi nomenclature and finally was able to have this.

Sudo ipmitool -I lanplus -H 10.0.0.9 -U Username -P 'Password!' raw 0x30 0xce 0x00 0x16 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00

It was not easy to find the addressing and where the bits should be flipped.

Would have got it without AI... Yes of course... Would have it been as fun... Probably no...

Besides going on a Ubuntu forum and crying for help.. Loll. And that's the kind of command you trow in a terminal once in a lifetime.

And misunderstanding of the engine sometimes lead to a complete derailment of the process...

There's also conditioning before action and that's a part many users don't explore, you can instruct it to remember this and that then you can tell it to apply all you ask it to remember to a given problem.

It's a very sophisticated tool that gets easily garbled.

 

[Jinx_]

It's distressing to me how many people use AI as a research tool. And by that I mean only AI. They just accept what it says.

I despise AI... All I'm gonna say